[Wanderer]

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:01 pm  

It's still Hanley (whatever people may think about his personality).

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:32 pm  

It’s an interesting question because I can see and agree with people saying Farrell and Scunthorpe as better players but at the same time if you could go back in time and were offered either of them or Sinfield aged 16 to have a 20 year career at your club would you opt for them over Sinfield?

Re: Best loose forward : Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:57 pm  

It all depends upon the time frame: 20 years? 30 years? 50 years?

20 years: 1. Paul Sculthorpe, 2. Kevin Sinfield.
30 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Paul Sculthorpe, 3. Kevin Sinfield
50 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Malcolm Reilly, 3. Paul Sculthorpe, 4. Kevin Sinfield.

Andy Farrell was a star at the club level but never shone in international games. Therefore he could never be considered great, let alone the best.

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:22 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

It all depends upon the time frame: 20 years? 30 years? 50 years?

20 years: 1. Paul Sculthorpe, 2. Kevin Sinfield.
30 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Paul Sculthorpe, 3. Kevin Sinfield
50 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Malcolm Reilly, 3. Paul Sculthorpe, 4. Kevin Sinfield.

Andy Farrell was a star at the club level but never shone in international games. Therefore he could never be considered great, let alone the best.

Farrell over Sinfield.

My top 3 over the 7 decades I have watched the English game. Mal Reilly, Ellery Hanley and Vince Karalius.

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:44 am  

Ellery Hanley

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:47 am  

Wanderer wrote:

It's still Hanley (whatever people may think about his personality).

Ellery may be the best player, but not the best Lf. Sculthorpe probably a better more skillful all round player, and had the size. Sinfield up there with the skill of Sculthorpe but a better leader game manager. Ellery was no game manager and had ltd all round passing kicking game.
Ellery was without doubt the most dangerous runner the game has ever seen. But he was never a classic loose forward. They played him there as it gave him the free reign/role rather than restricted at centre and never had the skill for a 6

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:48 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Sinfield barely played loose forward for his last ten years.

As a puller of strings, a leader and as a winner, he was the best.

The last paragraph just sums Sinfield up.totally agree.

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:50 am  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

Paul Scunthorpe did not win the golden boot award, like Kevin Sinfield and Andy Farrell did

Kevin Sinfield never won the Man of Steel award...Paul Sculthorpe is the only player in history to win it 2 years in a row.

Also, Sinfield won the Golden Boot in a year where England won an international series playing against France and Wales whereas Australia played a 1-off game vs NZ at the end of the season and nothing more so wasn't really much competition for it.

As for exploits in an international shirt, Sculthorpe will be remembered for the game at Huddersfield vs Australia when he pretty much single handedly took the game to the Aussies and beat them in one of the best performances I've ever seen from one of our players in an international shirt. Sinfield will be remembered for shooting out of the line and missing Shaun Johnson in a World Cup semi final to cost us a place in the final.

Sinfield was a great leader and brought a lot to the Leeds side...you can't disagree how important he was to their success and should be respected for his achievements. But as all round players, both Sculthorpe and Farrell were a lot better and performed better at international level.

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:34 am  

1. Sculthorpe (though it pains me to say it!)
2. Farrell
3. O'Loughlin
4. Sinfield

[Wanderer]

Re: Best loose forward : Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:23 am  

rollin thunder wrote:

Ellery may be the best player

Yep, the best this country has produced.