Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:05 pm  

According to Brian Carney, the "parachute payment" to Widnes will be halved if a second SL club is relegated.

This gives Widnes as a club a £250k incentive to lose to Hull KR on Sunday. If they win, they gain nothing, but risk Hull KR's relegation, and a huge financial loss.

If players stood to gain financially from their team losing, we'd ban them (Long and Gleeson). This is a whole club who have a very large vested interest in losing.

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:29 pm  

Have you seen Widnes this season? I'm sure there would be far more of a conspiracy theory if they actually won!

[Mild Rover]

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:51 pm  

This is a straw a few of our fans have been clutching at.

And there is a potential conflict of interest.

However, I just can’t imagine the players that take the field doing so with the intention of losing by 14 or more. The club hierarchy might have mixed feelings, but they’ll have to keep them to themselves.

Also, Widnes have done nothing to create this situation, and there’s no evidence they’re seeking to ‘benefit’ from it, so the Long-Gleason comparison isn’t all that valid imo. I appreciate, it may have been tongue in cheek.

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:10 pm  

It'll be a conspiracy theory if Hull KR can't beat Widnes by 14 points!

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:23 pm  

Rod Studd raised the same point on RL Backchat. With Toronto beating Leeds unless Widnes now do no worse than a 13 point defeat on Sunday and consign Hull KR to the MPG then many will take the view that they willingly threw the game to secure the full parachute payment. Despite the fact that Widnes have been poor for the whole season anyway.


There are only 2 ways to avoid the conspiracy theories now, either 1) the RFL announces tomorrow that every club that is relegated will receive £500k as a parachute payment whether 1 or 2 clubs are relegated or 2) the RFL announces tomorrow that due to the scrapping of the qualifiers that no relegated clubs will receive a parachute payment. Doing either of those removes the perceived incentive that seemingly exists for Widnes to lose by 14 or more on Sunday.

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:41 pm  

wiganermike wrote:

Rod Studd raised the same point on RL Backchat. With Toronto beating Leeds unless Widnes now do no worse than a 13 point defeat on Sunday and consign Hull KR to the MPG then many will take the view that they willingly threw the game to secure the full parachute payment. Despite the fact that Widnes have been poor for the whole season anyway.


There are only 2 ways to avoid the conspiracy theories now, either 1) the RFL announces tomorrow that every club that is relegated will receive £500k as a parachute payment whether 1 or 2 clubs are relegated or 2) the RFL announces tomorrow that due to the scrapping of the qualifiers that no relegated clubs will receive a parachute payment. Doing either of those removes the perceived incentive that seemingly exists for Widnes to lose by 14 or more on Sunday.

Not content with spreading crucial games over 4 days, we now have this.

The game should NEVER put itself in a position where such things can happen, it's just appalling.
Whether other results can prevent the potential for "fixing" a scoreline is irrelevant, it should never be possible.

Who the hell is running the sport and why risk such a scenario.

Yet again something that really isnt difficult to avoid, has been allowed to happen.

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:59 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Not content with spreading crucial games over 4 days, we now have this.

The game should NEVER put itself in a position where such things can happen, it's just appalling.
Whether other results can prevent the potential for "fixing" a scoreline is irrelevant, it should never be possible.

Who the hell is running the sport and why risk such a scenario.

Yet again something that really isnt difficult to avoid, has been allowed to happen.

We know who's running the RFL and why he has a lot to prove. My guess is that no-one had the foresight to work this out when Sky were asking for the fixture changes.

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:41 am  

The parachute payment has been approved, and coming from, the SL clubs, or effectively SLE. So let's direct our anger at who is really responsible for this prospective farce and not, as often the case, make out that it's always The RFL's fault.

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:27 am  

Who’s cares whether it’s bent or not?

Super duper league is run by a bunch of greedy short sighted ten bob shysters who have now bullied control from the rfl.

It’s why the sport is dying on its booty and aside from 3 or 4 elite clubs the top division is full of dross.

Re: Widnes's £250k incentive to LOSE : Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:52 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Who’s cares whether it’s bent or not?

Super duper league is run by a bunch of greedy short sighted ten bob shysters who have now bullied control from the rfl.

It’s why the sport is dying on its booty and aside from 3 or 4 elite clubs the top division is full of dross.

And dont forget that they wanted to take control cos it wasn't being done well enough for them. I give it a naximum if a couple of years until we see an re-enactment of Lord of the Flies and Julius Caesar and they're stabbing each other in the front nevermind the back!