Re: England v australia academy : Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:53 pm  

When England academy played Aussie school boys 3 years ago, and beat them, Latrell Mitchell was playing for them. Last season he played and scored in Origin, won a grand final and played for Australia.
I don't think any of the England academy team that day are anywhere near the England team. Ashton Golding was man of the series.

Re: England v australia academy : Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:03 pm  

CartHorse1984 wrote:

When England academy played Aussie school boys 3 years ago, and beat them, Latrell Mitchell was playing for them. Last season he played and scored in Origin, won a grand final and played for Australia.
I don't think any of the England academy team that day are anywhere near the England team. Ashton Golding was man of the series.

Full lineup for that game England won in 2014

Ash Golding (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
Jack Johnson (Warrington Wolves, Saddleworth Rangers)
Ash Handley (Leeds Rhinos, Stanley Rangers)
Toby King (Warrington Wolves, Meltham All Blacks)
Jack Logan (Hull FC, Cottingham Tigers)
Jordan Abdul (Hull FC, Skirlaugh)
Joe Keyes (London Broncos, Medway Dragons)
Ted Chapelhow (Widnes Vikings, West Bank Bears)
Robbie Ward (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
Tyler Dickinson (Huddersfield Giants, Siddal)
Oliver Davies (St Helens, Orrell St James)
Jansin Turgut - Captain (Hull FC, West Hull)
Sam Wilde (Warrington Wolves, Shevington Sharks)

Interchange
Luke Waterworth (Wigan Warriors, Ince Rose Bridge)
Will Maher (Castleford Tigers, Ulverston)
Mikey Wood (Huddersfield Giants, Slaithwaite Saracens)
Elliot Minchella (Leeds Rhinos, West Bowling)

Re: England v australia academy : Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:28 pm  

WRT to the 4 from Leeds

Ashton Golding - 62 appearances, got given the number 1 shirt when Hardaker was dismissed. Has lost it now BUT to another young English FB from our academy in Jack Walker.

Ash Handley - 72 appearances, been backup wing or centre for a few years now but got plenty of games each year since 2015. Has been handed Ryan Hall’s number 5 shirt and will be playing outside Konrad Hurrell which is a potential big opportunity.

Robbie Ward - 10 appearances, looked promising in his few appearances but talk of lack of effort and poor attitude when on Dual Reg at Hunslet saw him gone. Went to Australia to a Queensland Cup side but back after a year. Been at Dewsbury a few years now and not attracted the interest of a SL club or higher Championship club.

Elliot Minchella - 6 appearances, was Hardaker’s partner in crime in the attack on the student in 2015. Didn’t have the ‘credit in the bank’ on the pitch that Hardaker did and was out later in the year. Been at Sheffield and now at Bradford.

So overall one has been outplayed by another young academy lad, another has his big chance this year and the other two blew their chances with poor behaviour.

Re: England v australia academy : Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:47 pm  

Mitchell is superb.
What happened to the rest of the Australian schoolboys in that squad?

Re: England v australia academy : Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:48 pm  

Aussie line up from First test 2014-

Latrell Mitchell (Sydney City Roosters, Marist College Pagewood NSW)
Connor Cox (Morayfield State High School, Morayfield QLD)
Tyrell Fuiaomano (Parramatta Eels, Patrician Brothers College Blacktown NSW)
Tevita Cottrell (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Patrician Brothers College Blacktown NSW)
Gideon Gela (North Queensland Cowboys, Kirwan State High School Townsville QLD)
Brock Lamb (Newcastle Knights, St Mary’s College Maitland NSW)
Jack Cogger (Newcastle Knights, Mackillop Catholic College Warnervale NSW)
Hame Sele (St George Illawarra Dragons, Kingsgrove High School Kingsgrove NSW)
Jayden Brailey (Cronulla Sharks, Acquinas Catholic College Manai NSW)
Tom Amone (Parramatta Eela, The Hills Sports High School Seven Hills NSW)
Ray Stone (West Tigers, Wollindilly Anglican College Bargo NSW)
Ash Nisbet (Cronulla Sharks, St Gregory’s College Cambeltown NSW)
Nat Butcher (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Macellin College Randwick NSW)
Jacob Liddle (West Tigers, Wadalba Community School Wadalba NSW)
Luicano Leilua (St George Illawarra Dragons, Endeavour Sports High School Caringbah NSW)
Keegan Hipgrave (Brisbane Broncos, Palm Beach Currumbin State High School Palm Beach QLD)
Jacob Host (St George Illawarra Dragons, De la Salle College Revesby Heights NSW)


Off the top of my head only really Latrell, Lamb, Brailey & Liddle's I've seen play. Most of the others have played less than 20 NRL games.

[Bullseye]

Re: England v australia academy : Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:13 am  

Minchella will make it to SL, if not with Bradford then with someone else.

Re: England v australia academy : Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:54 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

Full lineup for that game England won in 2014

Ash Golding (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
Jack Johnson (Warrington Wolves, Saddleworth Rangers)
Ash Handley (Leeds Rhinos, Stanley Rangers)
Toby King (Warrington Wolves, Meltham All Blacks)
Jack Logan (Hull FC, Cottingham Tigers)
Jordan Abdul (Hull FC, Skirlaugh)
Joe Keyes (London Broncos, Medway Dragons)
Ted Chapelhow (Widnes Vikings, West Bank Bears)
Robbie Ward (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
Tyler Dickinson (Huddersfield Giants, Siddal)
Oliver Davies (St Helens, Orrell St James)
Jansin Turgut - Captain (Hull FC, West Hull)
Sam Wilde (Warrington Wolves, Shevington Sharks)

Interchange
Luke Waterworth (Wigan Warriors, Ince Rose Bridge)
Will Maher (Castleford Tigers, Ulverston)
Mikey Wood (Huddersfield Giants, Slaithwaite Saracens)
Elliot Minchella (Leeds Rhinos, West Bowling)

Shows what anyone who understands RL already knows - under 19’s is a hugely unreliable guide to a players future. Not all have made it and none are stand outs. Yet a number of youngsters from that 2014 Batch who never got a sniff have made it.

Sadly it’s just a snap shot of a player at that moment in time - basically the biggest or most confident at that age nothing more - except on very rare occasions like a Sam Burgess backing youth is a perilous business. Which is why I don’t agree with Hetherington attitude that the Academy is Leeds A team.

I generally agree with GH but in this case he’s talking utter rubbish imo.

Re: England v australia academy : Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:33 am  

CartHorse1984 wrote:

When England academy played Aussie school boys 3 years ago, and beat them, Latrell Mitchell was playing for them. Last season he played and scored in Origin, won a grand final and played for Australia.
I don't think any of the England academy team that day are anywhere near the England team. Ashton Golding was man of the series.

Golding was outstanding in the series snd the game against leeds, the Ayssies were creaming over him, sadly not quite happened for him yet but still young. Ray stone was outstanding for the Aussies but injuries seem to have stifled his development

Re: England v australia academy : Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:37 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Minchella will make it to SL, if not with Bradford then with someone else.

Cannot see it myself, has yet to prove himself a championship standard yet, if he does end up in super league he will be squad player at likes if Salford at best.
Not good enough typical of one off those players that looked great being a mature early developer in his own age group but cannot do it playing with the big boys.

[Bullseye]

Re: England v australia academy : Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:55 am  

rollin thunder wrote:

Cannot see it myself, has yet to prove himself a championship standard yet, if he does end up in super league he will be squad player at likes if Salford at best.
Not good enough typical of one off those players that looked great being a mature early developer in his own age group but cannot do it playing with the big boys.

Think you're writing him off too early, he's only 22 and has developed a lot in the past year. I can see him being a later bloomer like JJB.