Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:44 am  

Tbf the Leeds lady player tonight was ok as a pundit..I sort of agree with Post in soccer particularly the lady ex players pundits are wooden and only in the gig because they are female. The short haired ex England striker Smith? Is awful in her role imo. No problem with equality but it doesn't seem to go both ways in modern life? So I sort of get the OPs point but was probably worded a bit clumsily? Failing that I'm not getting involved in a ding dong over it

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:39 am  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

First of all you don't need to have played to a high standard to be knowledgeable and insightful about the game. I never played any higher than the Hull and District league but I am certain that I am more knowledgeable about the modern game than plenty of ex professionals.

Secondly, it's about the image we want to portray to viewers and sponsors. We need to appear more inclusive and forward thinking to appeal to a broader spectrum. It might seem like tokenism, but it is important to portray that image.

This is so true, to my knowledge Dave Woods has not played any serious rugby but has an obvious love and knowledge of the game and can commentate well!

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:03 am  

post wrote:

I’d say we were ahead of our time with having Angela Powers who earned her place and does a great job, why not have her in the studio rather than pitch side?

Are you serious about being 'ahead of our time'? In Australia the first female side line commentator started in 1984! In the NRL currently we have female assistant referees and in the reserve league we have female referees. On NRL programmes we have panels of women discussing NRL and females heading panels of male pundits.

Also one of the biggest areas of growth in Sport in Aus is in the female games of RL, Rugby, AFL and Football.

Finally the lady player from Leeds on the Sky panel tonight did very well. More of it for me.

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:13 am  

Freddie Miller. wrote:

Are you serious about being 'ahead of our time'? In Australia the first female side line commentator started in 1984! In the NRL currently we have female assistant referees and in the reserve league we have female referees. On NRL programmes we have panels of women discussing NRL and females heading panels of male pundits.

Also one of the biggest areas of growth in Sport in Aus is in the female games of RL, Rugby, AFL and Football.

Finally the lady player from Leeds on the Sky panel tonight did very well. More of it for me.

Well wrote. The lady who presents the Aus matches is excellent imo? Bearing in mind we have Barry and Tez and sometimes JJB the men's pundits aren't exactly blessed with TV talent..

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:19 am  

craig hkr wrote:

Tbf the Leeds lady player tonight was ok as a pundit..I sort of agree with Post in soccer particularly the lady ex players pundits are wooden and only in the gig because they are female. The short haired ex England striker Smith? Is awful in her role imo. No problem with equality but it doesn't seem to go both ways in modern life? So I sort of get the OPs point but was probably worded a bit clumsily? Failing that I'm not getting involved in a ding dong over it

Yeah it probably was worded clumsily but I’ve got an excuse, I played prop all my life. Thanks for being brave enough to speak your mind.

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Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:45 am  

post wrote:

Yeah it probably was worded clumsily but I’ve got an excuse, I played prop all my life. Thanks for being brave enough to speak your mind.

The problem is Post, that you judge her on the standard of the league she plays in rather than how good she is.
The shoehorning in thing is real I agree across all sports but not for women.

When the Olympics or WC is on we see lots of new people, many brought in for who they are rather than their knowledge and presenting skills.
Some go on to make something of it. Some don't.
It's not a gender thing.

Personally I thought the new presenter was a good addition. When asked about who she thought would win she gave a great response why she chose who she chose and when talking about the game she clearly had knowledge and clearly made judgement calls on the actual game rather than churning out standard lines.
In my opinion she is already above some of the summarises on sky/BBC so I hope she does more.

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:04 am  

Usual clichés and not a lot to offer IMO. Lois Forsell really showed Clarke up.

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:11 am  

Literally only there to make themselves look like they’re being contemporary and to tick the diversity box but because of the dross they already have on there half the time she’s slotted straight in and doesn’t look out of place.

She’s got about as much insight as Terry or Barrie and they played at the highest level. There’s blokes down the pub with more insight than those two though and there’ll be women who haven’t played and just spectators of the game with more than her too.

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:17 am  

I just mute it whether it be a man, woman or a three headed alien from Mars.

Re: Women on Sky : Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:27 am  

get Lois to take over Barry Mac, I'm sure she would do a better job then he can bugger off and write a book with his descriptive comments about how the game is played