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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

The Art of Spin..... : Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:43 pm  
43,865 for the games on Monday.......... A bit of a drop from the last round of fixtures.....average of 7,311 which was what the competition average was before the weekend. Whilst the attendances that were rightly lauded were great, it does look like they were simply papering over the cracks and the question has to be asked, "where were the 35,308 fans who rocked up on Thursday/Friday on Easter Monday?

30 minutes by car from Wigan to Salford yet only 4,017 bothered?
Wakefield is a 10 minute drive from Leeds......6,785....pitiful.....in fact, more than that, disgraceful!



17,247 watched Ipswich Town get relegated to the 3rd tier of football at the weekend.........nearly 7,000 more that watched the 2017 and 2018 SL champions combined....our sport (and the clubs at it's head) need to sort out this issue,because fewer fans at games will have a massive impact on the TV deal ad no amount of selective back slapping will fool those who hold the purse strings
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:59 pm  
Look at the teams who were playing at home on Monday, no real surprise.
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:49 pm  
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43,865 for the games on Monday.......... A bit of a drop from the last round of fixtures.....average of 7,311 which was what the competition average was before the weekend. Whilst the attendances that were rightly lauded were great, it does look like they were simply papering over the cracks and the question has to be asked, "where were the 35,308 fans who rocked up on Thursday/Friday on Easter Monday?

30 minutes by car from Wigan to Salford yet only 4,017 bothered?
Wakefield is a 10 minute drive from Leeds......6,785....pitiful.....in fact, more than that, disgraceful!



17,247 watched Ipswich Town get relegated to the 3rd tier of football at the weekend.........nearly 7,000 more that watched the 2017 and 2018 SL champions combined....our sport (and the clubs at it's head) need to sort out this issue,because fewer fans at games will have a massive impact on the TV deal ad no amount of selective back slapping will fool those who hold the purse strings
I understand your what your saying but comparing football and rugby is chalk and cheese
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:53 pm  
The Monday games are awful. The fixtures are boring and the standard is poor.

As a kid I used to love 2 games in 3 days, now it's an absolute choir and the players hate it. Old saying in life, you can have too much of a good thing. Scrap Easter Monday and maybe expand the Easter weekend so all 6 games are televised with derby games (maybe London v Toronto could be the derby for 2020 over Easter)
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:15 pm  
Don't blame Wigan fans for the Salford attendance, I'd estimate there was around 1k away fans, which isn't bad for the 2nd away game there in a month at £27 a go!
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:20 am  
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Don't blame Wigan fans for the Salford attendance, I'd estimate there was around 1k away fans, which isn't bad for the 2nd away game there in a month at £27 a go!
the way they walked out of the stadium on Friday they probably had enough
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:43 am  
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The Monday games are awful. The fixtures are boring and the standard is poor.

As a kid I used to love 2 games in 3 days, now it's an absolute choir and the players hate it. Old saying in life, you can have too much of a good thing. Scrap Easter Monday and maybe expand the Easter weekend so all 6 games are televised with derby games (maybe London v Toronto could be the derby for 2020 over Easter)

This.

Get rid of the Easter Monday fixture. I can’t justify taking up both bank holidays with watching the rugby. 1 I can get away with.

Plus the quality is understandably lower and it knackers our players out in a league that already plays too many games with not big enough squads.
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:03 am  
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This.

Get rid of the Easter Monday fixture. I can’t justify taking up both bank holidays with watching the rugby. 1 I can get away with.

Plus the quality is understandably lower and it knackers our players out in a league that already plays too many games with not big enough squads.


I said the same thing yesterday - this Easter thing has run its course for me; the modern game is far too high impact to expect players to manage 2 games with a 48-72 hour turnaround, and watching them drag themselves out for the Monday game, busted and exhausted, is positively painful - I kept expecting Big Dave Fifita to turn to the North Stand, arms aloft, and shout "Are you not entertained?!"

Get rid for me - it's wrong, and wreaks havoc in terms of player welfare.
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:24 am  
Him wrote:
This.

Get rid of the Easter Monday fixture. I can’t justify taking up both bank holidays with watching the rugby. 1 I can get away with.

Plus the quality is understandably lower and it knackers our players out in a league that already plays too many games with not big enough squads.


If Sky want something to show on both days, they could spilt the fixtures which, although still meaning some faffing around to get everyone back to their "regular" match days, would still give them the screen filler that they need.

I still dont get why they dont want to include some of the "better" Championship fixtures.
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Re: The Art of Spin..... : Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:33 am  
CM Punk wrote:
Don't blame Wigan fans for the Salford attendance, I'd estimate there was around 1k away fans, which isn't bad for the 2nd away game there in a month at £27 a go!


Only had to do a couple of laps of the Stadium to find somebody willing to sell me my £27 ticket as well.

No surprise the crowds aren’t rocking up at the AJ Bell.
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