Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Sat May 18, 2019 5:13 pm  

snowie wrote:

I'm rapidly losing fair with the officiating to the modern game, here's 4 pages with fans venting their spleen on how the decisions given in last nights game was missed,

lets take the two easily seen incidents that was so obvious and nothing was done about it, head high tackle that was shamefully missed and how clear does need to be for the ref, I personally don't want the physicality to be taken out of the game but that was a full swipe to the head,

as the the moving ball we have problem that having given the try they have to look for a reason not to, on evidence I said it would be given and there was any to give otherwise,
we seem to have lost control of the rules where at one time you had to have an hand on the ball it now can be a little finger or even the forearm.

when decisions go against you like this against a top side and cost you the game in no wonder it infuriates fans, now comes the labeling your always moaning about refs

great game Saints are not way ahead of the rest of the pack as it may seem on points as it was shown to ship in so many points showed a weakness as most other teams do, it does show that you put the effort in you can break the best of sides, great to see Salford prove to Jean who had you as bottom of the table team

fantastic come back from both teams I wanted it go to extra time shame it didn't

Well we are 'way ahead' of your mob who yet again can't even get a result against London.

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Sat May 18, 2019 5:16 pm  

RuddyScoosers wrote:

Well we are 'way ahead' of your mob who yet again can't even get a result against London.

we tried to a stains come back but left too late and we didn't have a ref that would allow a knock on try too

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Sat May 18, 2019 6:35 pm  

RuddyScoosers wrote:

Well we are 'way ahead' of your mob who yet again can't even get a result against London.

To be fair, he was right in what he said. We got lucky because the officials are absolute laughable. That was no try at the end. I would love to know in what basis the try was given

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Sat May 18, 2019 10:34 pm  

Why the hell did Salford do that ridiculous short kick off when we'd got it back to 20-30?? We got easy yards and scored in that set. There was absolutely no need to that in that situation. Can't recall who did it be he certainly wants bollocking. They've only themselves to blame for me.

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Sun May 19, 2019 8:58 am  

RuddyScoosers wrote:

Why the hell did Salford do that ridiculous short kick off when we'd got it back to 20-30?? We got easy yards and scored in that set. There was absolutely no need to that in that situation. Can't recall who did it be he certainly wants bollocking. They've only themselves to blame for me.

I'm not exactly sure he meant to do it tbh.
It was Inu and he had just been on the deck with a very nasty eye injury that he couldn't see out of. Hastings was all set to take it but he ran back and took it himself. He also has a penchant for kicking it out on the full so I reckon he put a bit less on it....

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Mon May 20, 2019 2:09 pm  

That was a cracking game - had pretty much everything, and was super entertaining for the neutral.

With regards the non-try though - when two teams have put so much effort and guts into performances of that standard, it's heartbreaking that the result is decided by a VR decision that was quite clearly, without any shadow of doubt, plain wrong; Mr Child, like every other person watching the game, could see that he lost control of the ball - so why not just say, "nope - he's lost that - I'm overturning the on-field decision?"

My view, long held, is that having the on-field ref make a call (guess) on an incident which, by virtue of sending it upstairs, he's already admitting he didn't see - fundamentally alters the mechanic of the VR review system; the VR will naturally veer away from contradicting his fellow ref, so we end up with blatantly unfair results like that, which could have a serious impact on the finishing position of the team on the wrong end of it.

Shameful that one of the most exciting games of the season, was decided on a self-evidently erroneous VR decision. Hard lines Salford.

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Tue May 21, 2019 6:48 am  

bren2k wrote:

That was a cracking game - had pretty much everything, and was super entertaining for the neutral.

With regards the non-try though - when two teams have put so much effort and guts into performances of that standard, it's heartbreaking that the result is decided by a VR decision that was quite clearly, without any shadow of doubt, plain wrong; Mr Child, like every other person watching the game, could see that he lost control of the ball - so why not just say, "nope - he's lost that - I'm overturning the on-field decision?"

My view, long held, is that having the on-field ref make a call (guess) on an incident which, by virtue of sending it upstairs, he's already admitting he didn't see - fundamentally alters the mechanic of the VR review system; the VR will naturally veer away from contradicting his fellow ref, so we end up with blatantly unfair results like that, which could have a serious impact on the finishing position of the team on the wrong end of it.

Shameful that one of the most exciting games of the season, was decided on a self-evidently erroneous VR decision. Hard lines Salford.

It would not have decided anything if mistakes from players had not let saints back into the game. Yet the players get a free ride whilst refs get it in the neck. Shock horror.

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Tue May 21, 2019 6:57 am  

snowie wrote:

we tried to a stains come back but left too late and we didn't have a ref that would allow a knock on try too

No clear evidence of a knock on though , ball left the hand (via interference from Griffin) but the ball was still in contact with the forearm with momentum. Tries can be scored by hand, wrist and forearm etc etc. I suspect the video ref gave that as benefit of the doubt try due to the on field call. Also watch it at normal speed and you can see why the on field call was a try because you can't see daylight between ball and hand/arm.

Saints should have had an extra 2 points as well, Coote's conversion attempt on the 3 rd try went above and between the upright sticks.

Lastly, great performance by Salford they did more than enough to win the game and over the 80 mins deserved something, but "Don't Write off the Saints".

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Tue May 21, 2019 7:56 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

It would not have decided anything if mistakes from players had not let saints back into the game. Yet the players get a free ride whilst refs get it in the neck. Shock horror.

Yes - that's sport isn't it - people do things, some of which works and some of which doesn't; and sometimes they make an error. They don't make an error in leisurely time though, with 8 super slo-mo HD replays, and a copy of the rule book in front of them.

You'll be relieved to have won and I get that - but it wasn't a try.

Re: GAME ON : St.Helens v Salford Reds Devils - 19:45:00 : Tue May 21, 2019 8:59 am  

Child going AWOL is all anyone needs to know about that man, what exactly was he doing when Lussick had his head taken off ? had he popped out of the video booth or just covered his eyes ? even Cummins was surprised about his non-intervention. I'm nearing F-ck Rugby League.