Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:32 am  

Him wrote:

Yep. Sadly has the signs of another club owner with a bigger ego than bank balance.

Chalmers seems intent on sticking it to the Council/RFL rather than actually sorting the issue.

If I were the RFL I’d sell the lease back to the Council and so allow them to sell the land, presumably for housing.

Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea of the costs involved in playing out of that stadium. Do you work for Bradford council?

We stay there on the current terms and the club dies (again). It's that simple. Is playing out of Dewsbury ideal? Of course not, but the club have just freed up literally hundreds of thousands of pounds by doing this. Odsal stadium has been a millstone around the neck of the Bulls for years, and now it's gone.

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:45 am  

Like the idea of building a brand new stadium within a 2 year time-frame. Good luck with that.

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:11 am  

Such a shame, but inevitable I suppose.

I'm sure everyone has a memory of great occasion at Odsal.

Great dressing up by Chalmers though, I've never heard the Tetley Stadium described as boutique!

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:23 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Such a shame, but inevitable I suppose.

I'm sure everyone has a memory of great occasion at Odsal.

Great dressing up by Chalmers though, I've never heard the Tetley Stadium described as boutique!

i still have nightmares whenever i heard wooly bully, it takes me back to many 50 point batterings.

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:44 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Such a shame, but inevitable I suppose.

I'm sure everyone has a memory of great occasion at Odsal.

Great dressing up by Chalmers though, I've never heard the Tetley Stadium described as boutique!

I certainly have, I went with me mate from school(Ings Road) and his dad to the 1960 play off final against Wigan, only highlight of the day was when entering the turn-style I looked down and found a half a crown piece, I did ask everybody if they'd lost one

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:49 am  

Nothus wrote:

Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea of the costs involved in playing out of that stadium. Do you work for Bradford council?

We stay there on the current terms and the club dies (again). It's that simple. Is playing out of Dewsbury ideal? Of course not, but the club have just freed up literally hundreds of thousands of pounds by doing this. Odsal stadium has been a millstone around the neck of the Bulls for years, and now it's gone.

What’s the issue with the RFL selling the lease and the land being used for housing then?

If Bradford can’t afford to stay there that’s fine. They just shouldn’t expect other people to fund their stadium/redevelopment for them which has been the tone of Chalmers press statements for a while now.

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:50 am  

The only thing odsal has going is its size. Some great memories but unless someone with mega millions came in it would never be developed into a decent modern stadium.

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:53 am  

If it's costing £300k per annum, plus "wear & tear" to continue playing at Odsal, it's easy to understand Braford's position in wanting something cheaper.
The difficulty comes in finding any decent alternatives.
Moving in with Dewsbury seems ok in the short term but, getting a new facility up and running in 2 years, especially on the back of walking away from their current lease, which will give both the RFL and the local council some headaches, is likely to be very problematic.

The deal for the RFL to take over the "iconic" Odsal stadium is going to leave a further hole in their finances and they are already, financially, blowing their brains out.

A bad day all round, although one does suspect that, this is still being discussed and there will be a different end to the story.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:14 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

If it's costing £300k per annum, plus "wear & tear" to continue playing at Odsal, it's easy to understand Braford's position in wanting something cheaper.
The difficulty comes in finding any decent alternatives.
Moving in with Dewsbury seems ok in the short term but, getting a new facility up and running in 2 years, especially on the back of walking away from their current lease, which will give both the RFL and the local council some headaches, is likely to be very problematic.

The deal for the RFL to take over the "iconic" Odsal stadium is going to leave a further hole in their finances and they are already, financially, blowing their brains out.

A bad day all round, although one does suspect that, this is still being discussed and there will be a different end to the story.

Well part of me did wonder (and I'm not being snide here) that this COULD be carter-esque brinkmanship. Sometimes it's a productive tactic in focusing minds. That said, this looks more firm than any of the Wakefield wranglings to date.

Re: Bradford : Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:24 am  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Well part of me did wonder (and I'm not being snide here) that this COULD be carter-esque brinkmanship. Sometimes it's a productive tactic in focusing minds. That said, this looks more firm than any of the Wakefield wranglings to date.

Well, for your sakes and those of the wider game, I hope it is more of a threat than reality.
Although, £300k per annum etc, is a huge rent on the Odsal facility and seems a long way from the supposed "peppercorn" rent that the old Braford Bulls were allegedly paying to play there.
It would be interesting to know whether Bradford can just walk away from their obligations at Odsal as there must be some fairly stringent agreement in place to cover such a situation or, at least you would expect so