Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:05 pm  

So you’re saying Sheens needs a blank cheque to be successful.

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:06 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!

Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.

The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.

Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful

Sheens has a superb record in Australia but, in the UK, he's been less than average.
Almost got Salford relegated but, then backed the wrong horse and went down with KR instead.
Salford have done rather better with their young English Coach, Ian Watson.

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:32 pm  

Willzay wrote:

So you’re saying Sheens needs a blank cheque to be successful.

Not a blank cheque. Just a decent cheque.

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:40 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!

Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.

The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.

Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful

Western Tigers surely?

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:44 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!

Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.

The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.

Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful

I think it's a good appointment for both parties. Tim Sheens can help guide a famous old club to the play-offs, and with Widnes they have some cracking young players, that will only benefit from his knowledge & experience.

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:44 am  

MonkeyLover wrote:

Western Tigers surely?

Surely not. They are known throughout Australia and the rugby league community as Wests Tigers. That is their official name.

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:52 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!

Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.

The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.

Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful

You didn't need to justify why Souths didn't win a premiership, apart from yourself nobody has mentioned them.

Back to Sheens... "He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford". Was Ian Watson given a strong enough roster to make the Super League Grand Final? Nope, but he did what he could with the players he had.

Sheens is an old man now, I get he might love the game but 100% should be taking a back seat now and perhaps head home to Sydney and look to offer his knowledge and experience at a lower league side. Having said that I wish him well at Widnes...

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:54 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Surely not. They are known throughout Australia and the rugby league community as Wests Tigers. That is their official name.

Sorry Jean but it's not, their official name is Wests Tigers Rugby League Football Pty LTD.

Cheers

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:49 pm  

Sheens is essentially the Jose Mourinho of RL.

Re: Tim Sheens at Widnes : Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:57 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Sheens is essentially the Jose Mourinho of RL.

Not quite.
All of his (Sheens) success has come in Australia.
Mourinho was successful in 4 countries, until his luck ran out.