Re: Jackson Hastings? : Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:26 pm  

Angelus wrote:

https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2019-07-08-hastings-to-become-a-warrior

"Hastings’ two-year deal with the Warriors will see him become the Club’s Marquee player, and his deal also includes an NRL get-out clause in the second year of the contract."

Nothing to do with what Wigan say, check out European employment laws! Wen people say contracts are not worth the paper they are written on this is what they mean. If he wants to walk he will, you can't make someone work where they don't want to work, I'd have thought that was obvious. It was nice of Wigan to include that cause but they need not have bothered.

Re: Jackson Hastings? : Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:53 am  

Fishermanscap wrote:

Nothing to do with what Wigan say, check out European employment laws! Wen people say contracts are not worth the paper they are written on this is what they mean. If he wants to walk he will, you can't make someone work where they don't want to work, I'd have thought that was obvious. It was nice of Wigan to include that cause but they need not have bothered.

See now you’re just getting carried away.

It’s got nothing to do with forcing someone to work where they don’t want to. It’s got to do with registering him as a player. Hastings or any other player can of course walk away from whatever contract they’ve signed. As others have said it’s unlikely they’ll be sued for any sort of loss from the club. However that club can legitimately hold their registration for the duration of the contract. The NRL have previously said they would honour any registrations lodged with the RFL and vice-versa. That’s why the contracts include NRL release clauses.

Re: Jackson Hastings? : Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:36 pm  

Him wrote:

See now you’re just getting carried away.

It’s got nothing to do with forcing someone to work where they don’t want to. It’s got to do with registering him as a player. Hastings or any other player can of course walk away from whatever contract they’ve signed. As others have said it’s unlikely they’ll be sued for any sort of loss from the club. However that club can legitimately hold their registration for the duration of the contract. The NRL have previously said they would honour any registrations lodged with the RFL and vice-versa. That’s why the contracts include NRL release clauses.

How would this actually work out.

If they hold onto his registration, would they not have to pay him and if so, would this not impact on their ability to fund a replacement ?
FWIW it would be great if the NRL did the right thing and not "allow" him to play for any NRL clubs, unless of course Hastings comes to some sort of agreement with Wigan, as it's totally wrong for him to sign a contract and not actually play for that club.

Of course, there could be some unique circumstances that none of us are privy to that make his return down under acceptable, who knows ?

Re: Jackson Hastings? : Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:21 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote: How would this actually work out. If they hold onto his registration, would they not have to pay him and if so, would this not impact on their ability to fund a replacement ? FWIW it would be great if the NRL did the right thing and not "allow" him to play for any NRL clubs, unless of course Hastings comes to some sort of agreement with Wigan, as it's totally wrong for him to sign a contract and not actually play for that club. Of course, there could be some unique circumstances that none of us are privy to that make his return down under acceptable, who knows ? When James Segeyaro refused to come back to Leeds the NRL stated he couldn't play down under as his registration had been lodged with the RFL. His contract was terminated following his failure to return (hence no pay) and Leeds signed Matt Parcell as a replacement. JS's registration issue was only resolved once Leeds received an undisclosed fee https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... ton-609061

wrencat1873 wrote: How would this actually work out. If they hold onto his registration, would they not have to pay him and if so, would this not impact on their ability to fund a replacement ? FWIW it would be great if the NRL did the right thing and not "allow" him to play for any NRL clubs, unless of course Hastings comes to some sort of agreement with Wigan, as it's totally wrong for him to sign a contract and not actually play for that club. Of course, there could be some unique circumstances that none of us are privy to that make his return down under acceptable, who knows ? When James Segeyaro refused to come back to Leeds the NRL stated he couldn't play down under as his registration had been lodged with the RFL. His contract was terminated following his failure to return (hence no pay) and Leeds signed Matt Parcell as a replacement. JS's registration issue was only resolved once Leeds received an undisclosed fee https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... ton-609061

Re: Jackson Hastings? : Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm  

Clearwing wrote: When James Segeyaro refused to come back to Leeds the NRL stated he couldn't play down under as his registration had been lodged with the RFL. His contract was terminated following his failure to return (hence no pay) and Leeds signed Matt Parcell as a replacement. JS's registration issue was only resolved once Leeds received an undisclosed fee https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... ton-609061 Did Leeds continue with the separate claim against him

Clearwing wrote: When James Segeyaro refused to come back to Leeds the NRL stated he couldn't play down under as his registration had been lodged with the RFL. His contract was terminated following his failure to return (hence no pay) and Leeds signed Matt Parcell as a replacement. JS's registration issue was only resolved once Leeds received an undisclosed fee https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... ton-609061 Did Leeds continue with the separate claim against him

Re: Jackson Hastings? : Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:31 pm  

Never heard owt if they did. I'd imagine they'd be hard pushed to prove they were out of pocket once they'd picked up a fee.

Re: Jackson Hastings? : Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:00 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

How would this actually work out.

If they hold onto his registration, would they not have to pay him and if so, would this not impact on their ability to fund a replacement ?
FWIW it would be great if the NRL did the right thing and not "allow" him to play for any NRL clubs, unless of course Hastings comes to some sort of agreement with Wigan, as it's totally wrong for him to sign a contract and not actually play for that club.

Of course, there could be some unique circumstances that none of us are privy to that make his return down under acceptable, who knows ?

Yeah as Clearwing has said if he’s not turning up to Wigan then he’s in breach of contract so Wigan don’t have to pay him but his registration would still be lodged with the RFL.

That’s the other fly in the ointment in that is there something else going on?