Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm  

SaleSlim wrote:

Amazing how Salford players shouldn't be considered for an England squad until they leave for elsewhere (Evalds being the prime example). I take it he's improved massively in those 2 games for Cas?

You're not wrong there Salesim, it's amazing what a new colour jersey can do for a players ability.

Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:40 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Evalds is a great fullback in attack and defence.

Tompkins attacking play is streets above any other full back though.

There are lots going on here. Simply being in form for your club counts for nowt.

[Durham Giant]

Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:41 pm  

Farrell great SL player never played well for England.

Connor somewhat inconsistent SL player but always played well at international level.

Wane is RL’s equivalent of Eddie Jones knows what he knows and sticks with the same old. I expect England to do as well in the WC as they did in the 6 nations.

Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Farrell great SL player never played well for England.

Connor somewhat inconsistent SL player but always played well at international level.

Wane is RL’s equivalent of Eddie Jones knows what he knows and sticks with the same old. I expect England to do as well in the WC as they did in the 6 nations.

Wane has a rugby brain. The squad list went out before round 2. Training next week and he will know the score. Too many reading into what should be..

Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:47 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Farrell great SL player never played well for England.

Connor somewhat inconsistent SL player but always played well at international level.

Wane is RL’s equivalent of Eddie Jones knows what he knows and sticks with the same old. I expect England to do as well in the WC as they did in the 6 nations.

Never been played in the right way for England, being used off the bench or in spells from the start. Farrell’s biggest attribute is his unbelievable engine, which means he does 80 minutes every week for Wigan and as opposition forwards are tiring, he’s getting stronger. His record is phenomenal for us on every score, tackles, lack of missed tackles, assists, try’s, metres and so on. I have never in my 30 odd years watching rugby league come across a guy as criminally underrated. He is World Class for us but because he’s not 6ft 5 and 18 stones or he’s not mouthing off and getting in to scrapes, he gets pigeon holed as ‘too small for internationals’. I love John Bateman and he’s been to the NRL and proved how good he is, well Liam Farrell has been every bit as good for us as John Bateman has been at every step of the way. They’re both fabulous players and whilst different in style I cannot split them in a Wigan shirt.

We’re lucky as a country to have both of them and Elliot Whitehead and I expect Wane will figure out a way of starting all three. That’ll do for me. I don’t think leaving Jake Connor out is a sign Wane doesn’t know what he’s doing, in fact it’s probably the total opposite. Keep a notoriously up and down player on his toes, keep pushing him and come World Cup time, if he’s still playing as well as he’s done in a whopping two games, I expect he’ll make the 17.

Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:58 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Never been played in the right way for England, being used off the bench or in spells from the start. Farrell’s biggest attribute is his unbelievable engine, which means he does 80 minutes every week for Wigan and as opposition forwards are tiring, he’s getting stronger. His record is phenomenal for us on every score, tackles, lack of missed tackles, assists, try’s, metres and so on. I have never in my 30 odd years watching rugby league come across a guy as criminally underrated. He is World Class for us but because he’s not 6ft 5 and 18 stones or he’s not mouthing off and getting in to scrapes, he gets pigeon holed as ‘too small for internationals’. I love John Bateman and he’s been to the NRL and proved how good he is, well Liam Farrell has been every bit as good for us as John Bateman has been at every step of the way. They’re both fabulous players and whilst different in style I cannot split them in a Wigan shirt.

We’re lucky as a country to have both of them and Elliot Whitehead and I expect Wane will figure out a way of starting all three. That’ll do for me. I don’t think leaving Jake Connor out is a sign Wane doesn’t know what he’s doing, in fact it’s probably the total opposite. Keep a notoriously up and down player on his toes, keep pushing him and come World Cup time, if he’s still playing as well as he’s done in a whopping two games, I expect he’ll make the 17.

Wane will do it correctly. Its his gig.

Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:22 pm  

The worry is that I saw Ryan Papenhuyzen playing last week and thought ‘I hope they pick Tedesco’. Then I saw Tedesco and thought ‘I hope they pick Latrell Mitchell’. Then I remembered that Mitchell is just as good in the centres, so he’ll play there.

Re: England Squad Announced : Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:27 pm  

“The squad has been selected on form”.
If someone could tell me what Dom Manfredi has done in the last few years? Hasn’t he made about about 20 appearances in five seasons? He’s clearly got ability, but you can’t claim a player is ‘in form” when he’s played so few games.

Re: England Squad Announced : Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:48 am  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

“The squad has been selected on form”.
If someone could tell me what Dom Manfredi has done in the last few years? Hasn’t he made about about 20 appearances in five seasons? He’s clearly got ability, but you can’t claim a player is ‘in form” when he’s played so few games.

He’s the only player in the squad whose place I question and that’s as a Wigan fan. He shouldn’t be in as things stand but I think Wane is picking him on the basis of knowing how good he can be but without him getting through a season or even more than ten games, it’s too hard to judge if it’s possible he could get anywhere near his previous levels. If he can then he’s talented enough to push Makinson and Johnstone but as things stand they look like shoe ins for the final squad and the 17.

[Bullseye]

Re: England Squad Announced : Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:01 am  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

The worry is that I saw Ryan Papenhuyzen playing last week and thought ‘I hope they pick Tedesco’. Then I saw Tedesco and thought ‘I hope they pick Latrell Mitchell’. Then I remembered that Mitchell is just as good in the centres, so he’ll play there.

Their quality in that position is mind boggling. Even in the unlikely event that those three are unavailable they could pick Gutherson or Trbojevic and they'd still be miles ahead.