Re: England Squad Announced : Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:15 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

You have to wonder why Wayne Bennett consistently chose the likes of Kevin Brown, Luke Gale, Jackson Hastings, George Williams infront of him?

He also choose not to select Sam Tomkins very much and I don’t recall Williams getting many more starts than Lomax did.

He’d choose Williams now though because he’s in the NRL. If you weren’t in the NRL or had played in the NRL under Bennett you were at a disadvantage.

Re: England Squad Announced : Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:12 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Like Farrell, has Lomax ever had a good game at international level? I can't recall one but maybe he has.

wasn`t it Lomax flopping in Denver that got everyone seeing what hull fans see in Conner ? brought on to replace Lomax and changed the game

Re: England Squad Announced : Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:37 am  

Still relying on Roby speaks volumes for the lack of world class Hookers being produced. Roby is a great player but at 35 you would think there would be someone else by now to have taken his place.

In contrast Cameron Smith is no longer around and I'm watching this 23 year old Harry Grant @ Melbourne Storm and he looks special.

Re: England Squad Announced : Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:42 pm  

puroresu_boy wrote:

Still relying on Roby speaks volumes for the lack of world class Hookers being produced. Roby is a great player but at 35 you would think there would be someone else by now to have taken his place.

In contrast Cameron Smith is no longer around and I'm watching this 23 year old Harry Grant @ Melbourne Storm and he looks special.

Cam Smith probably would've still played for Australia and Qld when he was 35/36 if he hadn't retired.

Re: England Squad Announced : Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:03 am  

Either way there’s no chance Hodgson can get the 9 shirt, he’s absolutely awful. Tries to do everything on his own constantly.

Re: England Squad Announced : Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:08 pm  

Think Wane already knows what his England squad is, maybe the odd player might make the squad but suspect form or otherwise he will already know his first choice 17.
Australia pick on form and have selectors. This has been an issue for years and is one of the reasons we have not beaten them for nearly 50 years, and are never likely to, we don’t select on form and now if you get a gig in the NRL your picked regardless of ability.

Australia will win the world cup England will make the semis at best, then there will be the usual enquiry and nothing will change.

Germany and France last 2 Fifa WC winners both essentially banned/ strongly discouraged or ltd overseas players in the domestic game to develop home grown players.

British RL needs to bring back a 3 overseas player rule and seriously consider not selecting NRL based players otherwise British RL will/if not already on the way to being a feeder comp.

Re: England Squad Announced : Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:13 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

Think Wane already knows what his England squad is, maybe the odd player might make the squad but suspect form or otherwise he will already know his first choice 17.
Australia pick on form and have selectors. This has been an issue for years and is one of the reasons we have not beaten them for nearly 50 years, and are never likely to, we don’t select on form and now if you get a gig in the NRL your picked regardless of ability.

Australia will win the world cup England will make the semis at best, then there will be the usual enquiry and nothing will change.

Germany and France last 2 Fifa WC winners both essentially banned/ strongly discouraged or ltd overseas players in the domestic game to develop home grown players.

British RL needs to bring back a 3 overseas player rule and seriously consider not selecting NRL based players otherwise British RL will/if not already on the way to being a feeder comp.

Yeah because players would stay in the SL if you did that, never mind all the money, playing in the best comp on the world, the sunshine, I'll give it all up to stay in Yorkshire and be part of the England side that never wins anything. We would have exactly the same number of British players in the NRL as we do now, just a far worse international side.

You talk about the Aussies picking on form but I've just looked

9 out of the Aussie 17 Australian stayed the same from '17 to '18. 10 of the England squad stayed over the same period.

9 of the Aussie 17 stayed the same from '18 to '19. Exactly the same for England in the same period.

The Aussies don't pick on form any more or less than we do.

Re: England Squad Announced : Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:35 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Yeah because players would stay in the SL if you did that, never mind all the money, playing in the best comp on the world, the sunshine, I'll give it all up to stay in Yorkshire and be part of the England side that never wins anything. We would have exactly the same number of British players in the NRL as we do now, just a far worse international side.

Well apart from the climate, Australia is a S**t hole. Salary cap a massive issue here, but NRL don’t do P&R players want money only in NRL then love them , ok then lay it on the line money or Not play for your country or take the cash, hard decisions need to be taken. Players only interested in Money and the sun are w**kers and should not be picked.

Re: England Squad Announced : Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:38 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

Well apart from the climate, Australia is a S**t hole. Salary cap a massive issue here, but NRL don’t do P&R players want money only in NRL then love them , ok then lay it on the line money or Not play for your country or take the cash, hard decisions need to be taken. Players only interested in Money and the sun are w**kers and should not be picked.

They have a short career and families to provide for. There's nothing wrong with putting that first. Plus I'm sure a lot of them genuinely want to test themselves in the best comp in the world. Regardless, all you have done is come up with a way to heavily weaken the international team, it wouldn't make even one player stay.

Imagine the anger from the fans as the World Cup rolls around. Williams, Thompson etc helpless in the stands as we struggle to get past PNG, Samoa etc because some bright spark created a rule to stop England benefitting from its best players playing in the best league. It would be one way to get us in the papers I suppose, we would be the national punchline for a week or two. "English rugby league players escape the M62 corridor, governing body promptly brands then heretics and banishes them from the national team."

Re: England Squad Announced : Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:15 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

Well apart from the climate, Australia is a S**t hole. Salary cap a massive issue here, but NRL don’t do P&R players want money only in NRL then love them , ok then lay it on the line money or Not play for your country or take the cash, hard decisions need to be taken. Players only interested in Money and the sun are w**kers and should not be picked.

Looks like someone's taken full advantage of the pubs being open.