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Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 12:04 am  
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ALAW wrote:
Big derbies maybe but for the smaller clubs? Don't know what the attendances for Wigan huddersfield/Hull kr/Salford. Happy to be proved wrong like.

Without current Covid restrictions or those planned for reopening, I would expect .....
Leigh v Wigan 10,000
Wigan v Leigh 14,000 - 15,000

from little old Leigh !!!
Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 9:14 am  

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wrencat1873 wrote:

Oh dear, you choose to deliberately miss the point.Why not just take it to the extreme and have Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Wire and Hull FC in their very own league.?

We already have repeat fixtures 4,5 and sometimes 6 times in a season.



It's about the crowds isn't it it's not about me.

People can be purists about this all day long but the more paying customers the better so if a fixture is played several times in a season but several big crowds turn up to see them all that's lots of money in the bank ........... so go on what would you do?

Change it so that they only play each once? Why not take your argument to this extreme and have a 28 club league and clubs only play each other once and no cup or play off games are played to avoid duplication???

Go on then tell me how that will go :lol: :lol: :lol: Tell me what the average crowd would likely be? :roll:
Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 9:19 am  

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Ste100Centurions wrote:
Without current Covid restrictions or those planned for reopening, I would expect .....
Leigh v Wigan 10,000
Wigan v Leigh 14,000 - 15,000

from little old Leigh !!!


But you can't apparently do this. There should be an avoidance of duplication of fixtures according to fans on here........

Wigan.v.Leigh 20,000

Then that's it until next season.......
Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 9:29 am  

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wrencat1873 wrote:
A few months ago, you were advocating the inclusion of York, Newcastle and London :shock:


Yes but only before the kind of no away fans clubs you advocate from overseas, who ALSO have no care for player development, and ALSO have no TV deals.........

Scores of posts from you supporting such clubs, asking for us to give Les Catalans "time"...... an irrelevance when their policy is not to run any academy. When they did do that for a short while it was to meet the licensing criteria,

Newcastle and London develop players and people from those cities can buy TV subscriptions adding to the TV deal and player pool.
Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 9:47 am  

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Donnyman wrote:
Yes but only before the kind of no away fans clubs you advocate from overseas, who ALSO have no care for player development, and ALSO have no TV deals.........

Scores of posts from you supporting such clubs, asking for us to give Les Catalans "time"...... an irrelevance when their policy is not to run any academy. When they did do that for a short while it was to meet the licensing criteria,

Newcastle and London develop players and people from those cities can buy TV subscriptions adding to the TV deal and player pool.


I believe that you are making stuff up, again.

Whilst accepting that ALL clubs should be doing more by way of development.
You haven't yet suggested how on earth Catalan could be forced to have "X" number of French players in their squad and why they should have to have this number, when other clubs most certainly dont have the same constraints put upon them.

They do seem to promote young French players into their squad from from somewhere though, which seems quite strange.

Their new academy facility looks superb too, something to rival any of their SL counterparts but, I'm sure that you will have seen this ?
Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 6:15 pm  

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wrencat1873 wrote:
I believe that you are making stuff up...,


:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm a WUM now am I??

Stooping a bit low there Wrenners :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 7:04 pm  

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wrencat1873 wrote:
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1. Catalans do seem to promote young French players into their squad from from somewhere though, which seems quite strange.

2. Their new academy facility looks superb too, something to rival any of their SL counterparts but, I'm sure that you will have seen this ?



1. They put French lads into the back end of their squad which helps them claim they are French. clearly these lads come from (and go back to play at) their Elite League clubs. Nothing strange about that. To me it'd be like Wakefield importing a whole Australian team and then filling the very back end of the squad with some Yorkshire lads...

2. It's clearly intended to stop Lenegan & Co. getting rid of Les Cats by demanding all Superleague 1 clubs must have academies. This was the reason why Catalans last set up an academy, so they could get a licence when we first had licensing. Same nonsense.

You may be fooled by Gausch (or you may be on a wind up yourself) but the English Superleague bosses do not like him, they were furious over Folau, Gausch doesn't attend Superleague meetings, and of course when Toulouse announced their massive spending to prepare for Superleague, the Superleague clubs ignored that and promoted Leigh.

Yes they promoted Leigh and ignored Toulouse

No I'm not making that up

You can look it up

For once

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Superleague re-structure Thu May 06, 2021 7:20 pm  
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Donnyman wrote:
1. They put French lads into the back end of their squad which helps them claim they are French. clearly these lads come from (and go back to play at) their Elite League clubs. Nothing strange about that. To me it'd be like Wakefield importing a whole Australian team and then filling the very back end of the squad with some Yorkshire lads...

2. It's clearly intended to stop Lenegan & Co. getting rid of Les Cats by demanding all Superleague 1 clubs must have academies. This was the reason why Catalans last set up an academy, so they could get a licence when we first had licensing. Same nonsense.

You may be fooled by Gausch (or you may be on a wind up yourself) but the English Superleague bosses do not like him, they were furious over Folau, Gausch doesn't attend Superleague meetings, and of course when Toulouse announced their massive spending to prepare for Superleague, the Superleague clubs ignored that and promoted Leigh.

Yes they promoted Leigh and ignored Toulouse

No I'm not making that up

You can look it up

For once

:lol: :lol: :lol:


I do wish you would stop regurgitating your rubbish.
Lenagan likes Catalans Dragons - https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ts-2432403
The French club have an Academy.
Every topic seems to involve your vast knowledge of how bad for the sport any overseas club is,and how we must see the same repeated mantra.
We all know now that you despise every overseas club.We all know you are quite happy staying indoors while M62 clubs play each other every week.Everything is fine.
That is you now,hopefully,finished on the Super League re-structure.We are all much the wiser...
No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent.
Re: Superleague re-structure Fri May 07, 2021 7:03 am  

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Donnyman is clearly from a different generation.
Re: Superleague re-structure Fri May 07, 2021 9:33 am  

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Donnyman wrote:
. This was the reason why Catalans last set up an academy, so they could get a licence when we first had licensing.


At least they went through with it and at least did what they said they were going to do.

We are still waiting for some M62 clubs to make good their promises they made to get a licence :WHISTLE:
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