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Re: Superleague re-structure Fri May 07, 2021 12:07 pm  

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Donnyman wrote:
But you can't apparently do this. There should be an avoidance of duplication of fixtures according to fans on here........

Wigan.v.Leigh 20,000

Then that's it until next season.......

You have been telling us for years that crowds don't matter and aren't a measure of success during the Toronto threads. Now your up posting crowd numbers in a positive light.

As a poster you lack any credibility.
Re: Superleague re-structure Fri May 07, 2021 12:52 pm  

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The Silent H wrote:
You have been telling us for years that crowds don't matter and aren't a measure of success during the Toronto threads. Now your up posting crowd numbers in a positive light.

As a poster you lack any credibility.
:lol: oh course crowds matter, paying crowds not ones that get freebies
Re: Superleague re-structure Fri May 07, 2021 3:33 pm  

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snowie wrote:
:lol: oh course crowds matter, paying crowds not ones that get freebies


In fairness, for all of the things that Toronto got wrong and there are plenty, getting new supporters in to watch a game that most had never seen before was huge credit to them and we never actually got to see what their crowds would have been like in SL, as they never played a proper home SL fixture.
Toronto aren't the only club to have offered freebies and deals to try and generate some support.
Re: Superleague re-structure Sat May 08, 2021 12:50 am  

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snowie wrote:
:lol: oh course crowds matter, paying crowds not ones that get freebies

Yet every club does it and you know it too.
Re: Superleague re-structure Sat May 08, 2021 7:09 am  

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snowie wrote:
:lol: oh course crowds matter, paying crowds not ones that get freebies


It's great to have a Minder on here to sort out the WUM's :lol: :lol: :lol:

Toronto of course lost £30 Million, didn't find a cent of TV money, and didn't develop a single player nor get a single kid playing.......

about 50 attempts at expansion have been tried since 1896 and TWP at least won the prize of the biggest ever failure in RL history.

Tell that to the Faux Frenchman........
Re: Superleague re-structure Sat May 08, 2021 7:15 am  

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wrencat1873 wrote:

In fairness, for all of the things that Toronto got wrong and there are plenty, getting new supporters in to watch a game that most had never seen before was huge credit to them



They attracted the "crowds" by putting on a Free beer festival and leaving the gates open for anyone to wander in. As was reported many people in the ground didn't leave the beer tents. As was reported fans from here who went doubted the crowd size anyway. Your not a WUM of course but you do get some things quite wrong.

If they had all these massive paying crowds how come they lost £30Million?
Re: Superleague re-structure Sat May 08, 2021 7:16 am  

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snowie wrote:
:lol: oh course crowds matter, paying crowds not ones that get freebies

Can you stick about a bit to clear up any more nonsense for me?

Cheques in the post as Argylle used to say :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Superleague re-structure Sat May 08, 2021 8:58 am  
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Donnyman wrote:


If they had all these massive paying crowds how come they lost £30Million?



Possibly because unlike M62 clubs they did NOT survive on any broadcast deals.
They also paid the costs of the travelling sides,and their entourage.
They also had a wealthy owner who did NOT pay for things.
Do you tar the M62 clubs under the same brush when they fail to pay?

Do you have any input with regard to the re-structure,again,of Super League?

Why do you persist in classing anyone who states facts and/or opinion as a WUM?
No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent.
Re: Superleague re-structure Sat May 08, 2021 8:11 pm  

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Ornery Optimist wrote:
Possibly because unlike M62 clubs they did NOT survive on any broadcast deals.
They also paid the costs of the travelling sides,and their entourage.
They also had a wealthy owner who did NOT pay for things.
Do you tar the M62 clubs under the same brush when they fail to pay?

Do you have any input with regard to the re-structure,again,of Super League?

Why do you persist in classing anyone who states facts and/or opinion as a WUM?


That’s a lot of money. If you think it worked you have your answer. To keep using the M62 clubs as an excuse who still survive is your burden. But they survive for a reason,not £30m.
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Re: Superleague re-structure Sun May 09, 2021 12:20 am  

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atomic wrote:
That’s a lot of money. If you think it worked you have your answer. To keep using the M62 clubs as an excuse who still survive is your burden. But they survive for a reason,not £30m.

They survived because of the Government grant/loan.
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