You have been telling us for years that crowds don't matter and aren't a measure of success during the Toronto threads. Now your up posting crowd numbers in a positive light.

As a poster you lack any credibility.

oh course crowds matter, paying crowds not ones that get freebies

In fairness, for all of the things that Toronto got wrong and there are plenty, getting new supporters in to watch a game that most had never seen before was huge credit to them and we never actually got to see what their crowds would have been like in SL, as they never played a proper home SL fixture.
Toronto aren't the only club to have offered freebies and deals to try and generate some support.

Yet every club does it and you know it too.

It's great to have a Minder on here to sort out the WUM's







Toronto of course lost £30 Million, didn't find a cent of TV money, and didn't develop a single player nor get a single kid playing.......

about 50 attempts at expansion have been tried since 1896 and TWP at least won the prize of the biggest ever failure in RL history.

Tell that to the Faux Frenchman........

They attracted the "crowds" by putting on a Free beer festival and leaving the gates open for anyone to wander in. As was reported many people in the ground didn't leave the beer tents. As was reported fans from here who went doubted the crowd size anyway. Your not a WUM of course but you do get some things quite wrong.

If they had all these massive paying crowds how come they lost £30Million?

Can you stick about a bit to clear up any more nonsense for me?

Cheques in the post as Argylle used to say

Possibly because unlike M62 clubs they did NOT survive on any broadcast deals.
They also paid the costs of the travelling sides,and their entourage.
They also had a wealthy owner who did NOT pay for things.
Do you tar the M62 clubs under the same brush when they fail to pay?

Do you have any input with regard to the re-structure,again,of Super League?

Why do you persist in classing anyone who states facts and/or opinion as a WUM?

That’s a lot of money. If you think it worked you have your answer. To keep using the M62 clubs as an excuse who still survive is your burden. But they survive for a reason,not £30m.

They survived because of the Government grant/loan.

Huddersfield offered free tickets for a game and it hardly boosted the crowd at all

We do a few games with cheap tickets in the past and it doesn't make much difference really

People won't attend something they don't like whether it's free or not

Toronto proved they could get 8,000 through the gates.... How Many super league clubs would get them crowds in league 1?.... None is the answer

They didn't verify the 8,000 you claim. But even 4,000 may have been a very good attendance for a free Rugby league game and a Free Beer festival.

But why as an established sensible poster are you even been drawn down the "crowds" line??

Right from the start Eric Perez spoke about his ambition for the TWP club and his desire to meet the criteria set them for entry to the game here. Perez fully acknowledged the club were required to develop North American players (and they actually did have several such players). However after year one they sacked the north american players off. There was no excuse for this as there are some good North American players playing league, they have played in RL World cups.

Perez fully acknowledged the need to get paying Canadian TV deals and he promised this from the start trying to sell his show in which Grid iron players would bid to convert to League and sign for the Wolfpack.

Nowhere but nowhere was the criteria for success "crowds" but you obviously fell for that, and of course Perez constantly peddled the massive crowds idea and TWP even went on to count the unverified thousands of "Eyeballs" i,e, alleged fans who avidly followed TWP over the internet and social media.

This "expansion club" was so successful it alleged it had hundreds of thousands of followers across the globe never mind "8.000" in the ground

You can find Perez agreeing to develop NA players and find Canadian TV money in his Dave Woods Interview on you tube. The "Crowds" argument was as phoney as the club and the reality was TWP failed to achieve anything they actually agreed to achieve.