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Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 7:30 am  

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wrencat1873 wrote:

There are more if's but's and maybe's in his statement that you can fit on a scrabble board.



No there aren't, just a clear statement from Wood that they can run solvent in Superleague.

Good lord man your own club can do it in an equally ramshackle stadium on far lower crowds than Bulls

There's no need to be mean and negative all the time.
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 7:32 am  

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Since they couldn't afford Odsal last time they were in SL he seems to have his sums wrong.


Wakey do it don't they, on less crowds.....
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 am  

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shinymcshine wrote:
I've a feeling it's more about some rosetinted vision that if the Bulls are in SL and playing at Odsal their attendance will suddenly grow to 10k+ and the heady days of 20k for a (competitive) Bradford v Leeds derby will suddenly return and everything will be good in RL again

Yep, dream on.....


In 1963 they were playing in front of crowds on only a few Hundred. They folded, returned and YES everything was good in RL again.

Nothing "rosetinted" about it. Again check the Bradford.v.Leeds cup game, check the 4,500 crowds for the losing side they had in the Championship.

What is this a Bull's haters thread?
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 9:25 am  

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I've followed Bradford for 35 years or so and am just as mystified by the practicalities of returning to Odsal as anyone else. I think it's fair to say we are rather cynical about big Nigel generally, particularly his historical involvement in Odsal sagas, and his role in turning down wealthy groups of people who bid for the club. Appointing friendly and compliant people with no money has clearly been a deliberate choice, it's just we are yet to understand why. You might cynically wonder if he's been central to a grand plan that has yet to reach fruition.

I'm not emotionally torn when it comes to Odsal anymore. I have had so many magical moments there but I've had enough of the place. It financially cripples the club I love, and it's entirely unacceptable for the 21st century. You have to invest hundreds of thousands to simply maintain it, and millions to give it the comforts people should expect to find. Stock cars putting in a lick of paint and a few barriers is not addressing the completely unsustainable state of the place. It's all dispiriting and I don't have any answers.
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 9:50 am  

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Not a hater, more a realist - it's great to get 10k for a one off, but Odsal needs a consistent crowd of 10k week in week out to be a viable proposition.

It would be great for the game if that happened, and if Bradford were back competing at the top again, but Ive not seen a viable proposal that supports that, and the wobbly/best intended attempts to save the club in the past suggests there are issues much greater than just whether they are/aren't playing at Odsal.
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 10:02 am  

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Pumpetypump wrote:
I've followed Bradford for 35 years or so and am just as mystified by the practicalities of returning to Odsal as anyone else. I think it's fair to say we are rather cynical about big Nigel generally, particularly his historical involvement in Odsal sagas, and his role in turning down wealthy groups of people who bid for the club. Appointing friendly and compliant people with no money has clearly been a deliberate choice, it's just we are yet to understand why. You might cynically wonder if he's been central to a grand plan that has yet to reach fruition.

I'm not emotionally torn when it comes to Odsal anymore. I have had so many magical moments there but I've had enough of the place. It financially cripples the club I love, and it's entirely unacceptable for the 21st century. You have to invest hundreds of thousands to simply maintain it, and millions to give it the comforts people should expect to find. Stock cars putting in a lick of paint and a few barriers is not addressing the completely unsustainable state of the place. It's all dispiriting and I don't have any answers.


Why aren't you sharing with Bradford PA, as was once mooted?

As I remember, the ground is more central than Odsal and surely offers a sustainable future in Bradford.
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 10:31 am  

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Bradford PA is too small capacity wise and no scope for any extension even including temporary stands.

Odsal isn't fit for purpose in the 21st century, a bit like Belle Vue. It's also unaffordable - without the upkeep being paid for by someone else. When the club has had to pay for that itself it's gone to the wall or gone very close. That was during periods when motorsport was still taking place and contributing funds too. Not sure what planet Nigel is on.
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Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 10:50 am  

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davids wrote:
Why aren't you sharing with Bradford PA, as was once mooted?

As I remember, the ground is more central than Odsal and surely offers a sustainable future in Bradford.


BPA are our sister club in many respect, and we have far more historical ties than we do with Bradford City so I'd be happy to share with them. The problem is that although they've done a good job with the Horsfall stadium (and we play our Academy and Women's games there) it's very small (circa 3k) so would also need a lot of investment to make it a forever home. I think we looked into getting it up to 5k before choosing to go to Dewsbury but it was prohibitively expensive.
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 10:51 am  

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Not sure what planet Nigel is on.


If you had a fiver would you go for A. unhinged, or B. grand plan?
Re: Odsal Tue May 11, 2021 11:21 am  

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Donnyman wrote:
No there aren't, just a clear statement from Wood that they can run solvent in Superleague.

Good lord man your own club can do it in an equally ramshackle stadium on far lower crowds than Bulls

There's no need to be mean and negative all the time.


Nothing "mean and negative" at all, just plain simple fact.
IF someone is prepared to throw (very) serious money at Odsal, it "could" be a runner but, for a club in Bradford's current position, there seems very little evidence of this, other then some optimistic words from a bloke with a vested interest.
Odsal has NOTHING to do with Trinity so, maybe, for a change, keep on topic.
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