Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:02 am  

puroresu_boy wrote:

What logic lies behind giving a promoted team less money to spend on the salary cap?

To spend on who?? There was nobody to buy.

They are making up the numbers and it's important the players give it their all each week. I enjoyed the match last night, everyone loves an underdog who tries, and the only problem we could have from leigh is if players start to give up, which I doubt will happen as I reckon they will be kept in SL for next year so the players may well be playing for SL contracts......

And no championship winner will be allowed up if they didn't win it on a full season of matches. Some RL journo may just want to just confirm with Superleague whether there actually will be P & R at the end of this season.....

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:08 am  

Budgiezilla wrote:

It wasn't a Warrington 'reserve side' though was it ?

It was some excellent top class RL players and some excellent up and coming young superstars.

I don't think there's actually a "reserves" league, so your bang on right

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:19 am  

Donnyman wrote:

To spend on who?? There was nobody to buy.

They are making up the numbers and it's important the players give it their all each week. I enjoyed the match last night, everyone loves an underdog who tries, and the only problem we could have from leigh is if players start to give up, which I doubt will happen as I reckon they will be kept in SL for next year so the players may well be playing for SL contracts......

And no championship winner will be allowed up if they didn't win it on a full season of matches. Some RL journo may just want to just confirm with Superleague whether there actually will be P & R at the end of this season.....

If not Leigh need to know now as clubs are buying up next years squads, if not we will have a repeat of this year.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:46 pm  

On the plus side, Wakey and Salford fans are happy that they are not in the bottom predicament for a change.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:08 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

If not Leigh need to know now as clubs are buying up next years squads, if not we will have a repeat of this year.

Next year you would presume that the club promoted would be slightly better off in that they will know that they're promoted by September, and will have (SL chairmen willing) the full amount of funding that the rest of the SL teams have too.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:52 pm  

RagingBull wrote:

Absolute laughing stock.

Love to see it happening to Degsy the clown

& after plenty of us Leigh fans supporting your fans through your last 2 administrations too ! Classy.

Have they fixed that enormous sink hole yet ?

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:58 pm  

Kevs Head wrote:

Promotion and relegation’s not the problem in rugby league. Relegation’s the problem.
Under the current system a team’s relegated whether it deserves to be or not just because it finishes bottom. Take London in 2020, relegated on points difference even though they won 10 games. The thing is they were competitive - they beat Wigan, Leeds, Sts, Trinity (twice), Catalans - and given a bit more time could have been, I think, successful and an asset to Super League. But they had to be relegated because they finished bottom (ahead of HKR who they beat twice!)
The winners of the Championship should be promoted (and protected from relegation for 1 season) whilst they bottom SL team is assessed for its competitiveness during the season. Work’s been done in the States on measuring teams’ competitiveness during matches so it can be done. A competitive team wouldn’t be relegated. It could lead to expansion and increased quality of SL based on measurable on field performance. An odd number would mess up Magic but there's a way round that too. Why relegate a potential asset?
I don’t know if this approach would help Leigh this year but they shouldn’t be relegated anyway. I know they applied for it but they and their fans haven’t been treated fairly. To relegate them would be a farce and bring the game in to disrepute.

Well thought out & interesting post .....

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:59 pm  

Ste100Centurions wrote:

Well thought out & interesting post .....

Well thank you Sir

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:10 am  

Kevs Head wrote:

Well thank you Sir

The product is failing, expansion is last on the list at present. Also how do you think Catalans are still viable in SL.

Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team? : Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:36 am  

Sadly, I think Leigh are proof that there are a limited number of SL players of influence. 11 clubs got to pick first, they got what was left, and a lot of them aren’t able to affect an SL game.

I’m not suggesting that their squad doesn’t have players who CAN play at this standard, but that they lack the players who can determine a change in momentum/unlock defence/control a game.

Usually, squads have a lot of these ‘filler’ players, for example Wigan have had Isa, Clubb, Crosby etc. and Leeds had Kirke, Gibson, Achurch etc. No doubt that these have been successful in their career by being in squads that have won trophy’s, but they don’t influence change in matches themselves.

So, is the answer to have less clubs and make the top of the pyramid narrower, or to facilitate better movement of these core talents across a settled group of elite clubs. It’s evident that a lot of clubs have finished their recruitment business before promotion is sorted, so the talent pool is drained before they even get a chance to pick.