Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:53 pm  

Man2wolf wrote:

Not sure what Ratchford has to do with anything (apart from the fact he plays for Wire) and the reason kids don't want a
Henderson shirt is because he's no good, not because he's English. But you seem to be missing my point. In your fantasy world Saints would have a full team of Antipodeans so where is the progression opportunity for young kids?
P.S. I wont be reacting to your next response as you are talking rubbish as usual and life's too short.

In your haste to have a cheap pop you’ve completely missed my whole point. But I wouldn’t expect anything less from a wolfs fan.

I will give you a clue. The reason the pathway is so hard at the moment is because grassroots is on its arris. We need to get more kids playing the game so we have a better chance of producing quality English players. To do that we need to raise the profile of the game. We won’t do that with a league of ratchfords and Paul mcshanes now will we?

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:26 pm  

Can't believe I'm kinda agreeing with Poky, but . . .

More money in the sport, equals,
Players getting paid more, which equals,
Better players in the competition, which equals,
A much better product and higher wages, which equals
More people wanting to play RL, which equals
Much better English players.

There are no benefits to a salary cap.
Makes the competition fairer? Only 4 winners in 25 years
Stops clubs going bust? We know that's not true

Get rid.

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:42 am  

Salary cap holds the game back

Sponsors/investors don't wanna invest in a sport with a limited income

International game is what needs to improve look at cricket and yawnion their club crowds are poor really

12 teams no one cares about Salford v Wakefield in a 2,000 battle

Go to 10 teams and get a better international game

All these teams have proved they average 5k+ none of the 2k crap

FC
Saints
Leeds
Wigan
Warrington
Catalan
Cas
Rovers
Bradford
Toronto

Getting rid of Toronto is why the game is on its death bed...the only team who can bring headlines and proper investors and potential global worldwide growth were thrown out for a 3k minnow outside of Wigan

Toronto got 7k in league 1 not a single SL team would average 7k in league 1

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:42 am  

Thetalentboy wrote:

1. International game is what needs to improve

2. Getting rid of Toronto is why the game is on its death bed...t

3. Toronto got 7k in league 1

1. So how do we do that?

2. We didn't get rid of them their investor ran up £30M of debt and walked away

3. Nobody paid though hence he ran up a £30M debt.

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:47 am  

Jack Napier wrote:

There are no benefits to a salary cap. Makes the competition fairer? Only 4 winners in 25 years

Beats only one winner every year but you may not be old enough to remember Wigan's tedious domination of every competition(s), when crowds were far lower than they are now.

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:50 am  

Poky wrote:

In your haste to have a cheap pop you’ve completely missed my whole point. But I wouldn’t expect anything less from a wolfs fan.

Cheap pop meets cheap pop

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:38 am  

Thetalentboy wrote:

Salary cap holds the game back

Sponsors/investors don't wanna invest in a sport with a limited income

International game is what needs to improve look at cricket and yawnion their club crowds are poor really

12 teams no one cares about Salford v Wakefield in a 2,000 battle

Go to 10 teams and get a better international game

All these teams have proved they average 5k+ none of the 2k crap

FC
Saints
Leeds
Wigan
Warrington
Catalan
Cas
Rovers
Bradford
Toronto

Getting rid of Toronto is why the game is on its death bed...the only team who can bring headlines and proper investors and potential global worldwide growth were thrown out for a 3k minnow outside of Wigan

Toronto got 7k in league 1 not a single SL team would average 7k in league 1

Surely FC’s average should be 10k? Given your example of Toronto!

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:57 am  

Thetalentboy wrote:

Getting rid of Toronto is why the game is on its death bed...the only team who can bring headlines and proper investors and potential global worldwide growth were thrown out for a 3k minnow outside of Wigan

Toronto got 7k in league 1 not a single SL team would average 7k in league 1

You do remember that Toronto went bust trying to "chase the SL dream".
Nobody can deny that they did exceptionally well in marketing and promoting the game but, ultimately, they blew several million dollars in just a few short seasons and those that believe in a transatlantic league, especially mid pandemic, need to have a lie down in a dark room.
Totally agree about the international game, which is being hampered by the insular view of the NRL, who, just aint bothered about the rest of the game.
The stunt that they have pulled regarding the world cup is just appalling.

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:26 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

1. You do remember that Toronto went bust trying to "chase the SL dream".

2. Nobody can deny that they did exceptionally well in marketing and promoting the game

3. Ultimately, they blew several million dollars in just a few short seasons

4. those that believe in a transatlantic league

.

1. They didn't go bust their benefactor who was and still is a billionaire as his Brazilian Potash mines never stopped working, decided to just pack it in on a whim caused by Melbourn Storm looking like they may let him take a stake.

2. They didn't market or promote the game at all. They promoted a big beer festival on every matchday and gave away free tickets and left gates open, then made up the attendances.

3 Several Millions? It was $$30 Million they blew

4. What's new? everyone has an idea of what they would do that would see half of Britain turning to Superleague. that's because dreams are more fun than reality.

on resumption of the game after the first world war these clubs were prominent . Leeds, Hull, Oldham, Rochdale, Warrington. Wigan, Bradford, Wakefield, HKR, Huddersfield, Widnes, York, Dewsbury, Batley, Halifax keighley, Salford, Leigh, St.Helens, Swinton, Batley etc etc ,

When the clubs meet in August to decide the TV money some of these clubs may finally disappear....

But "how to make the game grow like mad" posts will never disappear, and I'm not trolling either

Re: Plan to revive game in 2022 : Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:31 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

1. So how do we do that?

2. We didn't get rid of them their investor ran up £30M of debt and walked away

3. Nobody paid though hence he ran up a £30M debt.

Got to be another wind up