Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:44 pm  

Pathetic attendance, Leigh v Fev (not a local(ish) derby at all, got more than a 1000 fans at the game than yours did. Oh Bl00dy dear !!!!

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:51 pm  

Wirecutter wrote: A team with stability and understanding beat us today and nothing more. This +1. Betts has been at Widnes for over 3 full seasons - Not Such A Drama When Cullen Went To Director Of Rugby Difficult for Harris who has only been here 3 weeks and the spine of the side had changed,again,and trying to bed in loan players and another home debut player. Poor performance.Felt sorry for Tommy Lee who deserved better.Bit naughty on the other thread highlighting 1 single error by Tim Smith who was busy organizing and didn't expect the pass - thought his introduction spurred the side into some kind of action. I expect a bigger improvement under Harris than there was after 12 months of Noble. Rather be in a final at Old Trafford than Wembley anyway.It's cheaper.

Wirecutter wrote: A team with stability and understanding beat us today and nothing more. This +1. Betts has been at Widnes for over 3 full seasons - Not Such A Drama When Cullen Went To Director Of Rugby Difficult for Harris who has only been here 3 weeks and the spine of the side had changed,again,and trying to bed in loan players and another home debut player. Poor performance.Felt sorry for Tommy Lee who deserved better.Bit naughty on the other thread highlighting 1 single error by Tim Smith who was busy organizing and didn't expect the pass - thought his introduction spurred the side into some kind of action. I expect a bigger improvement under Harris than there was after 12 months of Noble. Rather be in a final at Old Trafford than Wembley anyway.It's cheaper.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:55 pm  

Tommy wasn't robbed, he missed the kick. We lacked composure and pace.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:59 pm  

I was surprised to see Brian Noble removed from post, but I think I'm starting to see the reasons. His legacy is a team with no pace in the three-quarters, no spark at acting half and no kicker. A three-quarter line of Williams, Gleeson, S'au and Meli just isn't quick enough for the modern game. Tommy Lee isn't sharp enough at dummy half, and looks much better at loose forward. Obviously, Iestyn Harris has taken steps to rectify this problem by signing Logan Tomkins. The lack of a goal kicker is just criminal.

We're back in transition, but, hopefully, a transition towards a more competitive team rather than a transition towards Bradford Bulls c.2001.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:00 pm  

year of the viking wrote:

...was most surprised that we had more fans there than you ...

Really? That's terrible. Do you have the figures to hand?

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:06 pm  

Apparently 2600! Can see the doc being in a foul mood tonight! We need to bring quality in at centre & winger! A proven kicker would be nice why didnt we go for tickle!?

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:17 pm  

Wirecutter wrote:

Yes we are having to field a few players way past their best this year thanks to Noble. It's nothing that can't be improved upon with a few new signings for next year and some time for Harris to mould the team.

Criticising the players on Twitter isn't going to turn them into a team of world beaters next week.

Who said criticising players on twitter would help? Unfortunately though, when you have fans who pay hundreds for a season ticket, hundreds to go over to France and are treated to a performance like that then they're going to vent their anger on social media sites.

I knew the attendance would be low, I said also said we'd be lucky to reach 3k. Hardly surprising.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:40 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

Who said criticising players on twitter would help? Unfortunately though, when you have fans who pay hundreds for a season ticket, hundreds to go over to France and are treated to a performance like that then they're going to vent their anger on social media sites.

I knew the attendance would be low, I said also said we'd be lucky to reach 3k. Hardly surprising.

Sorry If I wasn't clear, I was making reference to the Doc's tweet just after the match. I can fully understand his frustration but you aren't going to be playing you're best rugby with new players and a new coach after just 3 games.

The players look tired. It looks like the training has been stepped up a few notches and some players look like they're fatigued at the moment.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:56 pm  

andyh0064 wrote:

New faces, same old Salford.

In Harris's after match interview he alluded to the fact the losing culture/low expectancy at this club hasn't left the players even though it's a new team.

Wow I wish my boss paid me a fortune and took me to such far flung places as South Africa I'd be forever in his debt.

Nevermind we can concentrate on the league now staying in it that is.....

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:02 pm  

I haven't seen his post match interview. That's pretty bad though, considering we have almost a completely new team, as you said. If the team had played even half the match the way they played the last 10 minutes we'd have walked away with a win.