Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:32 am  

pc reg hollis wrote:

top player 1 of the best half backs iv seen at salford!cant blame him for leaving club is a JOAK! x

oh dear !! Have you only been watching Salford for 2 years?

IMO, he was/is an OK half back: suspect defensively, average in-game kicking, below average conversion taker, poor at taking on the line, good distribution to 3/4s. We should be able top replace that, I think.

Look at Saturdays match, for example: OK, his heart may not have been in it, but how many times was he tackled with the ball whilst taking on the defensive line......he wasn't, because he off-loaded EVERY time, and never once backed himslef, took on the line, and broke through. Compare this to, for example, Theo on Friday night for the U20s - he took on the line, and made numerous breaks: just what a half back should be doing.

Thanks for your time, DJ. Now lets have someone playing for the club with some passion for the shirt. Close the door on your way out, please. Adios!

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:36 am  

Is that the next instalment of that £1m loan paid then?

Hope that Jodie Broughton isn't the following installment.....

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:53 am  

Jodie owes a lot to Salford for letting him continue with his studies whilst playing for the club.

He always seems pretty happy so here's hoping.

So we need a new 1, 6 and 7. Evalds looks a great prospect in the U20's although I think we will try and get another big name in. Fages too, looks great but not sure how they will cut it in SL. Sneyd is also in the wings.

I think we need to shake the pack up too. We need a bigger pack to give the backs more time to play.

Plenty of players out, so lets see who comes in.............

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:57 am  

pc reg hollis wrote: top player 1 of the best half backs iv seen at salford!cant blame him for leaving club is a JOAK! x Anyone know what a JOAK is? Is this an acronym for something? I looked here but couldnt find anything? http://www.acronymfinder.com/Index-JO.html

pc reg hollis wrote: top player 1 of the best half backs iv seen at salford!cant blame him for leaving club is a JOAK! x Anyone know what a JOAK is? Is this an acronym for something? I looked here but couldnt find anything? http://www.acronymfinder.com/Index-JO.html

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:00 am  

Man in Madrid wrote:

:lol: oh dear !! Have you only been watching Salford for 2 years?

IMO, he was/is an OK half back: suspect defensively, average in-game kicking, below average conversion taker, poor at taking on the line, good distribution to 3/4s. We should be able top replace that, I think.

Look at Saturdays match, for example: OK, his heart may not have been in it, but how many times was he tackled with the ball whilst taking on the defensive line......he wasn't, because he off-loaded EVERY time, and never once backed himslef, took on the line, and broke through. Compare this to, for example, Theo on Friday night for the U20s - he took on the line, and made numerous breaks: just what a half back should be doing.

Thanks for your time, DJ. Now lets have someone playing for the club with some passion for the shirt. Close the door on your way out, please. Adios!

Must say I couldn't disagree more with you.

Holdsworth for me has been superb, yes he's a few off games and maybe his attitude off the pitch isn't brilliant, but for me he is class on his day. Everything comes through Holdsworth and if it wasn’t for him we wouldn't have scored as near as many tries as we have in the last 3 years. Think he was in the top 5 for try assists last season and again this season he's in the top 10. Compare this to Matty Smith who had about 3 try assists to his name for the whole season before he joined Wigan. Also Holdsworth does more defending than any other halfback in the league, which makes his attacking stats even more impressive. I think he will be a massive loss for the team and the style of rugby we want to play and I for one wish him all the best. However he didn't want to remain here (and who can blame him) so it's best for all concerned that he leaves.

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:35 am  

Only seen Holdsworth a few times this year, was impressed in the Exiles game but what is he like throughout the season?

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:38 am  

Holdsworth clearly had his head turned mid-season and with everything else that has gone on over the 3 years he has been here, we probably can't blame him. He has been decent enough but is not irreplaceable, and if his unhappiness has been undermining the team, then it is best for all that he leaves, and good luck to him.

We as a club simply need to have every player committed to the cause. We are not going to be signing any superstars in the near future, so we need every player who pitches up to be willing to put their body on the line every week and display real pride in playing for the club.

Might I suggest we start by saving some money on Simms' annual Australian jaunt and try to put in place a policy of buying British?

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:10 pm  

Liam666 wrote:

Only seen Holdsworth a few times this year, was impressed in the Exiles game but what is he like throughout the season?

Probably his standout performance this year. That said, he was working behind an actual set of forwards.

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:27 pm  

That's the thing, he's too often been behind a beaten pack whilst at Salford. But he's still been a good player on the whole, showing some real class at times - but not irreplaceable. Sure he'll do great at Hull, all the best to him.

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:55 pm  

I rate him as a player, and I though he always gave 100% on the field. No sign of hiding behind injuries even though he may not have been happy at the club, and had been talking to Hull for a while.

Anyone else notice that even when the game was gone on Saturday, he tried for a 40/20, which may have been his last kick in a Salford shirt - he was gutted he didnt make it.

I'm not saying he's world class, but he could have helped take us to the next level had off field circumstances been different.

He's a bigger loss than Matty Smith.