Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:14 pm  

Liam666 wrote:

Only seen Holdsworth a few times this year, was impressed in the Exiles game but what is he like throughout the season?

In that Exiles game Holdsworth put firmly himself in the shop window.

It's been the worst kept secret for weeks that he was on his way to Hull FC

Now then my opinion for what it's worth about the player himself.

He's very much hot and cold, he appears to me to be the type of player who wants to be the number 1 ie: Super Star..

I have seen the majority of his games in a Salford shirt since he arrived and to be honest he's no world beater but on a going day he can do the business, but on the other hand I have seen him go hiding/sulk a few times whilst at Salford City Reds.

Now when he plays for Hull FC next season I'm sure we will see a differant player because he will be surrounded by better players and most of all a much bigger and go forward pack.

I wish DJ well for the future and I am realy looking forward to seeing him perform next season when the Reds play Hull FC home and away.

Like every other player who leaves Salford City Reds they always seem to improve and do well for there new club.

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:50 pm  

Man in Madrid wrote:

:lol: oh dear !! Have you only been watching Salford for 2 years?

IMO, he was/is an OK half back: suspect defensively, average in-game kicking, below average conversion taker, poor at taking on the line, good distribution to 3/4s. We should be able top replace that, I think.

Look at Saturdays match, for example: OK, his heart may not have been in it, but how many times was he tackled with the ball whilst taking on the defensive line......he wasn't, because he off-loaded EVERY time, and never once backed himslef, took on the line, and broke through. Compare this to, for example, Theo on Friday night for the U20s - he took on the line, and made numerous breaks: just what a half back should be doing.

Thanks for your time, DJ. Now lets have someone playing for the club with some passion for the shirt. Close the door on your way out, please. Adios!

The great Kenny Gill never broke the line,but he did keep putting Dixon and Coulman under the post's
if Fages is half as good we have got a player

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:00 pm  

Does anyone have any idea how much we are getting from Hull?

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:07 pm  

Personally, I'm glad to see the back of him. He has moaned and bitched his way through this season with his best mate.

He has talent but has managed to hide it well in this season unless we have been on TV .

I feel he has let us the fans and the club down, we offered him a good contract when no one else wanted him. He has seriously under p[erformed this season.

I expect him to perform well next season for the black and whites.

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:10 pm  

How will he go at Hull, well he's light years ahead of any of their current halves, so he will go well in a squad being assembled with a Warrington/Wigan type salary cap.

Whilst I'm not bothered who leaves anymore it only affects the quality of the league as a whole, anything we have gets taken Myler/Ratchford/Turner/Holdsworth/Smith/Gleeson/Moon ?. Unlike the NRL where this seasons cellar dwellers can win the comp next year you can take an educated guess who will be super leagues cellar dwellers.

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:11 pm  

Ave It! wrote:

Must say I couldn't disagree more with you.

Holdsworth for me has been superb, yes he's a few off games and maybe his attitude off the pitch isn't brilliant, but for me he is class on his day. Everything comes through Holdsworth and if it wasn’t for him we wouldn't have scored as near as many tries as we have in the last 3 years. Think he was in the top 5 for try assists last season and again this season he's in the top 10. Compare this to Matty Smith who had about 3 try assists to his name for the whole season before he joined Wigan. Also Holdsworth does more defending than any other halfback in the league, which makes his attacking stats even more impressive. I think he will be a massive loss for the team and the style of rugby we want to play and I for one wish him all the best. However he didn't want to remain here (and who can blame him) so it's best for all concerned that he leaves.

No problem disagreeing, thats because we're all different. Life would be boring if we were all the same!

The reason DJ was credited with so many assists is the brand of attacking rugby instilled in us by Shaun Long. From an attacking PTB, we appear to have certain set plays, the most heavily used being 9 to 7 to 6 (DJ). 6 then has either a flat ball to a running second rower or centre, or a deep ball to the full back joining the attacking line, depending which play is called. Theoretically, so long as they knew the calls and plays, anyone could adopt that role and succeed. This is the reason Matty Smith never had the same number of assists - he was a distributor. DJ certainly never gave us any "off the cuff" rugby. Don't get me wrong, i thought he did OK - certainly not the worst we've ever had by a long way - its just that he never set the field on fire for me. Like his antipodean mate, Mr Patten, his commitment waned during the year and once that enthusiasm went, so did a fair amount of his positive performances.

Re: Holdsworth signs for Hull FC : Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:01 pm  

Can start going again now that Mork and Mindy have gone.
Trouble causing moaning pair of barstools who we are well rid of.
When he first came DJ was a breath of fresh air, then his pal came and that all changed.
Once again a player given the platform by Salford after being rejected by everyone else, and who leaves for pastures new.
I hope he remembers that if it was not for Salford he would be either in Japan playing RahRah or in country rugby back in Oz