Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:13 pm  

Salford red all over wrote:

Nevermind we can concentrate on the league now staying in it that is.....

Yes just like the pre franchise era where avoiding relegation was viewed as a successful season and something to celebrate.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:16 pm  

We have Been exposed to many times out wide, we have no pace out wide. Well done Widnes they took there foot off the gas and allowed us back into the game.
Teams each week target us in the 3 quarter line, we don't have the pace out wide. Platt was so awful but he was not alone. We will struggle to make the top 8.

Good fun being a Salford fan never mind off to Perpignan next week hopefully we will at least have a bit if sun.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:24 pm  

I hate to admit it but it does look like Brian Noble was stuck in a time warp when he was recruiting players last year.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:29 pm  

Wirecutter wrote:

I hate to admit it but it does look like Brian Noble was stuck in a time warp when he was recruiting players last year.

Step one of rebuilding. Bring in big names... Meli, chase, Morley etc to build some excitement through the club.
Rebuilding a club is more than just winning games.
Switching coaches after so little games hasn't helped.

You have a team that can compete for a top 8. Gelling takes awhile. You'll be firing toward the end of the season as long as your outspoken owner doesn't keep putting a downer on everything.

Keep your chins up and think about last year.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:33 pm  

AntGiant wrote:

You'll be firing toward the end of the season as long as your outspoken owner doesn't keep putting a downer on everything.

Sadly this is where it will all fall down. He should go on a 3 month cruise and see where we are at on his return.

Re: Not good enough! : Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:36 pm  

AntGiant wrote:

Step one of rebuilding. Bring in big names... Meli, chase, Morley etc to build some excitement through the club.
Rebuilding a club is more than just winning games.
Switching coaches after so little games hasn't helped.

You have a team that can compete for a top 8. Gelling takes awhile. You'll be firing toward the end of the season as long as your outspoken owner doesn't keep putting a downer on everything.

Keep your chins up and think about last year.

Yes in fairness it can't be underestimated how difficult it must be trying to bring in top players in their prime to Salford. I agree with the comment about us firing later in the season. Harris just needs time and support and we will improve significantly and have something to build on for 2015.

Re: Not good enough! : Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:44 am  

I wanted Salford to do well for the sake of having another good team, and at first quite liked kashcow, but after the crap he has spouted and his disrespect for the game I'm probably in the camp of most people wanting Salford to finish as low as possible, and I'm sure most teams lift their game for Salford because of his arrogance.
He seems obsessed with celebrity more than anything else.
Will be interesting to see how long he gives Harris.
I bet Harris isn't the coach next year.

Re: Not good enough! : Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:06 am  

It doesn't take a genius to see that our right wing is getting hammered by the opposition, week in week out. You can see Gleeson frantically flapping at the others to say "help us out!" but it's too late by the time they've noticed.

Re: Not good enough! : Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:45 am  

AntGiant wrote:

Wirecutter wrote:

I hate to admit it but it does look like Brian Noble was stuck in a time warp when he was recruiting players last year.

Step one of rebuilding. Bring in big names... Meli, chase, Morley etc to build some excitement through the club.
Rebuilding a club is more than just winning games.
Switching coaches after so little games hasn't helped.

You have a team that can compete for a top 8. Gelling takes awhile. You'll be firing toward the end of the season as long as your outspoken owner doesn't keep putting a downer on everything.

Keep your chins up and think about last year.

Thanks for such a balanced assessment. This is pretty much an entirely new squad, and it will take time to gel. For me, though, there are still two problems that no amount of gelling will fix: the lack of pace in the backs and the lack of a goal kicker. It seems Marwan's trip to New Zealand is an attempt to address at least one of these.

I think most Salford fans were expecting no more than a mid table finish this season. It was really only fans of other clubs who thought they knew what we were thinking better than we did, and decided that we'd decided we were Grand Final material. I don't think even Red League/Mike 87 went around saying that.

It's still too early to say whether Iestyn is the right man for the job, but I'm increasingly of the opinion that Nobby wasn't. If Iestyn tries to build a team fit for the modern game rather than trying to build a team in the image of the Bradford Bulls of the turn of the century, then we'll be on the right lines.

Re: Not good enough! : Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:58 am  

Red John wrote:

Thanks for such a balanced assessment. This is pretty much an entirely new squad, and it will take time to gel. For me, though, there are still two problems which no amount of gelling will fix: the lack of pace in the backs and the lack of a goal kicker. It seems Marwan's trip to New Zealand is an attempt to address at least one of these.

I think most Salford fans were expecting no more than a mid table finish this season. It was really only fans of other clubs who thought they knew what we were thinking better than we did, and decided that we'd decided we were Grand Final material. I don't think even Red League/Mike 87 went around saying that.

It's still too early to say whether Iestyn is the right man for the job, but I'm increasingly of the view that Nobby wasn't. If Iestyn tries to build a team fit for the modern game rather than trying to build a team in the image of the Bradford Bulls of the turn of the century, then we'll be on the right lines.

Never a truer word spoken.

You're right in your analysis about Salford fans, at least those on here.

The season is a bit of a stutter at the moment. Changing Coach at this stage wont help any stability that we had to start with, but that will iron itself out with familiarity and time. Will we finish the season stronger than now? I think we will. The Club needs a prolonged period of calmness at the moment. Pre-season was manic, with speculation and confirmation fueling a media frenzy. We have been under the spotlight from day one, then Noble going and all the goings on between Marwan and the RFL have kept us firmly in the public's eye. A period of a month or two without any sensationalism can only be good for the Club and staff, allowing Harris to concentrate on the changes and bedding them in.

Harris will ultimately need a pre-season and recruitment drive of his own to be fully judged on his ability. Hopefully he will get that opportunity.