Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:57 pm  

LoyalFan wrote:

....I certainly don't enjoy running the club down... ..

Well why keep on doing it with every post then?

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:22 am  

LoyalFan wrote:

so excuse me in thinking that we are owed a little more.

How's that then? Can you quantify what the club owes us and we'll bill them directly.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:38 am  

Im sorry but I've got to agree with LF on this one. I really don't understand why our fans keep mocking those who have a diffrent opinion to them. The one thing we all have in common is that we love Salford and only want the best for the club but at times you do have to stand up and speak out. Were told that us as fans have to understand were not buillding the stadium BUT... the club has to realise that us as fans have been waiting for the stadium for over 10 years, the club have to realise that without the stadium, Salford's future is very bleak indeed. The club has to realise that we have been given assurances left right centre that the stadium will be built only for it to encounter another problem, the club has to realise that us as fans have had to endure years of underachieving yet still follow them all around the country.

Now im not for one minute saying any of the problems are directly the clubs fault but surely communication needs improving- we have a 21 page thread on the project- the only relevant information we have about the stadium has been dug up by fans in their spare time.

Yes were not building the stadium but without Salford RL there is no stadium in the 1st place, surely we have more power than were being led to believe. Leaving this latest mishap to one side, why are we not trying to win the PR war at this stage with updates, pictures etc? Is really that difficult for the media guy at Salford to ring the media gut at Peel and work out something together?

Im not trying to have a pop at anybody i just worry for the future of the club i love and missing opportunities such as the one Sky presented us, to show everyone in the RL world including us fans that we are in safe hands and do have a bright future is a massive kick to the nut sack for me personally. It all leaves me still wondering and pessimistic about our future- but thats just how i feel, others obviously have a different take on the whole event.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:53 am  

LoyalFan wrote:

You are correct in assuming I don't know what happened... fact is... I don't... but neither does anybody else on here. Some will take as absolute gospel what the club say... some won't. I just say it as I see it... too many others don't. I certainly don't enjoy running the club down... but this is the club that have been building this stadium for over 10 years and fed us all kinds of stories during that time... and many (including myself) have believed every word... so excuse me in thinking that we are owed a little more. Everyone on here loves the club... myself included... but too many can't see the wood for the trees sometimes.

I am sure the club would be in the new stadium now but for things that were totally beyond their control. For instance the financial backer that had his assets frozen which meant the development company by law could not accept any futher investment from him. This isn't bullshit it's a fact and it cost the club years and the directors of this club a hell of a lot of their own personal money they had invested. At this point the directors could have just walked away from the club and put it down to a really bad experience but they didn't because they probably love this club even more than us as supporters. The fact is they dusted themselves down, worked hard to found a solution to the problem.

Without meaning to cause offence I think some people are just ignorant to just how much is involved and the obstacles the club has had to overcome to get this far with the stadium. I think some people when frustrated just have to point blame and moan rather than accept how difficult this has been for the club!

So before you go the trouble of telling me I'm gullible or a member the 'rose tinted brigade' I just thought I'd mention that I don't give a sh*te so don't waste your time!

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:01 am  

TOMMO2 wrote:

the club has to realise that us as fans have been waiting for the stadium for over 10 years...
the club have to realise that without the stadium, Salford's future is very bleak indeed...
The club has to realise that we have been given assurances left right centre that the stadium will be built only for it to encounter another problem...

I don't think any of the above will be news to the club.

TOMMO2 wrote:

the club has to realise that us as fans have had to endure years of underachieving yet still follow them all around the country.

There's far more clubs beneath us in that regard than above us. I'd actually dare to suggest that existing in the top tier with our measly crowds is something of an over-achievement.

Like I said earlier, if we'd provided three mins of appeasing screen fodder for Sky and churned out the same "council-led, community, franchise blah blah..." we'd be none-the wiser. It probably wouldn't have got more than a passing mention on here.
I just get a kick watching the over-reaction here when an opportunity arises to tell the club how awfully it's run (despite overwhelming odds against it even existing...)

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:23 pm  

"despite overwhelming odds against it even existing"


At last we get to the crux: the amount of criticism we get on a national stage on crowds, violent fans, and poor play (I decided to theck and every - yes every - game we have won has been reported in the press as the other side - Saints, London, Bulls etc -playing badly.

But we are still there and down to the club officials. I accept we can and should complain but everyone makes mistakes. Overall we do not make many and this is shown as we still exist.

Compare us to Oldham, Hornets or Swinton: all are faced with our inherent problems and more because of the way they were ran.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:42 pm  

so whats the situation with the new stadium then last i heard was when eddie on sky said that the new stadium would deffo be built for the end of nxt season thats what wilkinson told him confidently, he also said that all preperation work was been done. so is the funding in place,is preperation in place and most importantly when is the stadium due to be started? are you at the same stage as saints as for there stadium.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:37 pm  

arliebird wrote:

so whats the situation with the new stadium then last i heard was when eddie on sky said that the new stadium would deffo be built for the end of nxt season thats what wilkinson told him confidently, he also said that all preperation work was been done. so is the funding in place,is preperation in place and most importantly when is the stadium due to be started? are you at the same stage as saints as for there stadium.

Arliebird, the funding is now all in place. The preparation work started in April and its really coming on. Diggers on site working 6 days a week 10/12 hours a day and are making great progress on the site.

The final desgins are being finalised....and I think they are sorting tenders and stuff out at the moment /soon.

The preparation work finshes and building work is due to start in October this year.

We're at a similar stage to saints althoguh theyve appointed their bulder but we havent yet (or its not been made public)

so its all looking good so far!! finally!!

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:26 pm  

[quote="arliebird"]so whats the situation with the new stadium then last i heard was when eddie on sky said that the new stadium would deffo be built for the end of nxt season thats what wilkinson told him confidently, he also said that all preperation work was been done. so is the funding in place,is preperation in place and most importantly when is the stadium due to be started? are you at the same stage as saints as for there stadium.[/quote

airlie bird, go to page 13 on this thread some photos posted although from a month ago & a lot more work has been done since & lower down that page is some plans of the stadium.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:18 am  

EX.SALF.UNI wrote:

How's that then? Can you quantify what the club owes us and we'll bill them directly.

I can safely say if i did that they wouldnt owe me anything they have given me some of the best moments in my life allowed me to meet some fantastic people and become a rounder person.............if they wish to pay for my hair replacement theropy i need as i keep ripping out or treatment for any stress related ilnesses i suffer from in the coming years then that would be great much better than the odd newsletter


As for the stadium it looks like the development is going great guns at present its good to see peel and the other parties involved mean business.

People will start believing when you see bricks ans mortor in october.