Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:29 pm  

Well we can scratch Fielden and Coley of any list we may have compiled, they've both signed new deals at Wigan.

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:51 pm  

Do we really need Paul Mcshane from Leeds when we have all seen what young Gaz Owen has to offer.

IMO, I would bulk him up abit in the close season and develop him as our interchange hooker for next year. He looks better than Jezza (But I dont think thats to difficult to achieve) and he is a product of our youth system. Just needs some more size.

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:54 pm  

king of the shed wrote: Well we can scratch Fielden and Coley of any list we may have compiled, they've both signed new deals at Wigan. Story here Fielden And Coley Sign New Deals

king of the shed wrote: Well we can scratch Fielden and Coley of any list we may have compiled, they've both signed new deals at Wigan. Story here Fielden And Coley Sign New Deals

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:58 pm  

Red Devil 09 wrote:

Do we really need Paul Mcshane from Leeds when we have all seen what young Gaz Owen has to offer.

IMO, I would bulk him up abit in the close season and develop him as our interchange hooker for next year. He looks better than Jezza (But I dont think thats to difficult to achieve) and he is a product of our youth system. Just needs some more size.

He's only 17 though isn't he? While I have been impressed by what I've seen from him so far, it's probably a little early to start expecting him to make a proper step up to the first team.

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:10 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

He's only 17 though isn't he? While I have been impressed by what I've seen from him so far, it's probably a little early to start expecting him to make a proper step up to the first team.

Correct. He's got a lot of growing to do yet. And, may I just point out that it's not just a case of "bulking up" over the off-season. Adding muscle mass takes a long time for most and should be done properly or you end up with players body's breaking down, way before their time. (Paul Sculthorpe was a prime example of this.) (Assuming that Owen even has the genotype to bulk-up)
Give the lad time me thinks!

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:32 pm  

Red Preacher wrote:

Correct. He's got a lot of growing to do yet. And, may I just point out that it's not just a case of "bulking up" over the off-season. Adding muscle mass takes a long time for most and should be done properly or you end up with players body's breaking down, way before their time. (Paul Sculthorpe was a prime example of this.) (Assuming that Owen even has the genotype to bulk-up)
Give the lad time me thinks!

Following a strict diet and the right training programme a lot of extra strength can be achieved in 6 months. If you take Richie Myler as an example he doesn't have the genotype to ever be a big muscular player but he's been very well conditioned and that's what Owen will benefit from.

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:48 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

Red Devil 09 wrote:

Do we really need Paul Mcshane from Leeds when we have all seen what young Gaz Owen has to offer.

IMO, I would bulk him up abit in the close season and develop him as our interchange hooker for next year. He looks better than Jezza (But I dont think thats to difficult to achieve) and he is a product of our youth system. Just needs some more size.

He's only 17 though isn't he? While I have been impressed by what I've seen from him so far, it's probably a little early to start expecting him to make a proper step up to the first team.

Think we have got a gem in Gaz Owen, what does it matter if he is only 17, if he is good enough, he is old enough. A good off-season with all the senior players & who knows, next season could be a revelation for him he could be just what we are looking for, he's not afraid who's infront of him as we all saw the tackle he made on Korki & he was in there pushing Cashmere over the line.

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:05 pm  

dann_salford wrote:

Salary cap? They've brought in Brett Hodgson and he won't have come cheap.

Yes and lost V Anderson, R Mathers, K Penny roumours of a few of the fringe players leaving... Salary cap wont be an issue!

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:08 pm  

theredshed wrote:

Following a strict diet and the right training programme a lot of extra strength can be achieved in 6 months. If you take Richie Myler as an example he doesn't have the genotype to ever be a big muscular player but he's been very well conditioned and that's what Owen will benefit from.

I'm sorry to contradict but I'm actually a strength and conditioning coach. (Retired) Indeed, it's possible to achieve a certain degree of growth over 6 month period but not guaranteed. His body may not/never be ready for such gains. Give him time and hope he responds to the training and nutrition would be my view on him.

Re: he is coming : Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:30 pm  

theredshed wrote:

Following a strict diet and the right training programme a lot of extra strength can be achieved in 6 months. If you take Richie Myler as an example he doesn't have the genotype to ever be a big muscular player but he's been very well conditioned and that's what Owen will benefit from.

I'm sure a close season with a balanced Diet and plenty of ' medicinal Compound ' ...and an assistant coach named Malcolm Alker , oh and a trip to Majorca to sort out those shiney legs