Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:12 pm  

shandybass wrote:

This is all so indicative of Salford as a club-regardless of anything else you tie down promising young players well in advance.Look at the Nasri situation at Arsenal as well-it becomes disruptive and a side show that affects both the player and club/team.In addition a healthy transfer fee.Salford are and have been a shambles.

a very clueless posting, Narsi has one year left and Arsenal are willing to let him sit out the remaining year of his contract and let hem go on a free, for the last 18 months Salford have been trying to get Stef to sign an extension to his current contract, his agent and Stef decided not too so the contract runs down. Warrington had no room (sic) on the salary cap to sign him last season, so they can get him on a free now, nothing to do with the club really apart from having a coach who didn't like Stef.

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:16 pm  

While I agree with you to a certain extent Middleman, it will always be the case while the Club still sleeps, hopefully to awake to become the giant we all want. We just have to accept, for the time being, that because we are not a side that is challenging the top 8 comfortably young players will be tempted away.

If we step-up the level we operate at both on and off the field in the next couple of years you will see a drop-off of young talent heading elsewhere. Youngsters want to make the most of themselves as quickly as possible and languishing in the lower half of SL will just make them look elsewhere.

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:21 pm  

middleman wrote:

must just be me that find Myler. Turner & now Ratchford feeling the need to ply their trade with other clubs worrying , correct non are the finished article , but have 35-40 tries between them this season, and all have their best years ahead of them.
and no it doesn't leave Salford in a better position , it just reinforces the belief that we are a good shop window for a year or two to get to another club . not exactly a receipe for making us a top club in SL.

Take it easy 35-40 tries haha
Between them they have scored 23 tries and the way warrington have ripped teams apart im sure the average joe number 7 playing in that team could score 15 tries

All i'm saying is they moved on and Salford have got better. Ratchford will move on and Salford will get better !!

just to compare dan holdsworth and myler


tries 15 to 6 in favour of myler
assists 23 to 9 in favour of Holdsworth !!!



i'd compare a centre to Jordan but i'd have to compare half the squad who have took turns there this year haha

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:53 pm  

My opinion has not changed at all.
Stefs a good utility player,promised more than he delivered when he played stand off and was not as good as the guys playing at half back.
Hope he does well wherever he goes.
The club moves on.
I suspect we'll sign a better player than Stef.

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:14 pm  

middleman wrote:

must just be me that find Myler. Turner & now Ratchford feeling the need to ply their trade with other clubs worrying , correct non are the finished article , but have 35-40 tries between them this season, and all have their best years ahead of them.
and no it doesn't leave Salford in a better position , it just reinforces the belief that we are a good shop window for a year or two to get to another club . not exactly a receipe for making us a top club in SL.

That's life Middleman isn't it. It all comes down to dosh at the end of the day. Salford in the late 60's early 70's buying success, Wigan in the 80's and 90's and Warrington over recent times flashing Mr Moran's cash. I was thinking to myself the other day about Wigan buying all Warrington's best kids a few years back. The teams come in cycles saying is true and it will be Salford's turn again some time in the future! Who would have thought Man City would be the richest club in world football 3 years ago?

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:39 pm  

theredshed wrote:

That's life Middleman isn't it. It all comes down to dosh at the end of the day. Salford in the late 60's early 70's buying success, Wigan in the 80's and 90's and Warrington over recent times flashing Mr Moran's cash. I was thinking to myself the other day about Wigan buying all Warrington's best kids a few years back. The teams come in cycles saying is true and it will be Salford's turn again some time in the future! Who would have thought Man City would be the richest club in world football 3 years ago?

City's owners richest not the club.

This cycle thing got me thinking, our success cycle is forty years, the 1930's 40 years after Rugby League Started, the 1970's 40 years after the 30's and now we find ourselves 40 years on from the 1970's so here goes, success is just around the corner.

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:02 pm  

Bonita Red wrote:

My opinion has not changed at all.
Stefs a good utility player,promised more than he delivered when he played stand off and was not as good as the guys playing at half back.
Hope he does well wherever he goes.
The club moves on.
I suspect we'll sign a better player than Stef.

Well you and I have never agreed about Ratch/S McRae.

However by not playing the lad and having him up to play in every other back position obviously upset young Stef and more to the point presumably SM then did not recommend to the Board that he was WORTH another contract thus protecting our `investment` in the player. It has cost us thousands by not doing so and for me there is only ONE person to blame.

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:06 pm  

Shizzle wrote:

Take it easy 35-40 tries haha
Between them they have scored 23 tries and the way warrington have ripped teams apart im sure the average joe number 7 playing in that team could score 15 tries

don't think it's that easy eh ?

Myler Tries 15 in SL + 2 in CC Total 17
Ratchford 11 in SL + 3 in CC Total 14
J Turner 8 in SL + 5 in CC Total 13
so thats 34 in SL ,10 in CC making err 44 tries so far in 2011

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:23 pm  

Confirmed Ratch to wire

Confirmed Ratch to wire

Re: Ratchford : Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:28 pm  

BigPev, there's a more worrying cycle:
dominated RL 1910-14 and 1936-39.

err, then something happened