Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:12 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

I don't know why anyone is surprised. It has been yet another awful season for Salford which is destined to end in failure again. Harris deserves the sack. We move on.

No discernible difference between Salford under Harris and Salford under Noble. Is it the choice of coaching staff? Or is something else going on behind the scenes that's causing all of this?

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:53 pm  

We can only speculate on that, you must imagine it would be a difficult environment for a head coach of Harris' stature to work within i.e relatively inexperienced, wanting the chance and too afraid to upset MK.

The facts are, we're 11th in the table despite having a squad that is more than capable of challenging for the top 6 let alone top 8. We're on a terrible run of results and our performances aren't showing any signs of improvement despite a number of injuries and suspensions returning to the 17 over the previous few weeks.

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:48 pm  

GT wrote:

No discernible difference between Salford under Harris and Salford under Noble. Is it the choice of coaching staff? Or is something else going on behind the scenes that's causing all of this?

Big difference in style and intensity,but not results or morale

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:58 pm  

Bonita Red wrote:

Big difference in style and intensity,but not results or morale

Salford under Noble had won 3/7 matches(43%) at the start of a season with a completely new squad, and were still in the cup after beating Hull. Salford under Harris have won 14 of 46 matches (30%) and lost in the cup to a team from the lower division. I'm not sure where this myth that things were terrible under Noble has come from, but it was worlds better than what has happened under Harris and I have no doubt the club would be much better off at this stage if Noble had been in charge for the last 18 months.

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:27 pm  

I agree.
I'd not done the stats but,as I said previously, Harris needed time to impart his systems ( 'the players need to absorb information') but,for reasons that have been flogged to death, there has been little or no progress.
We'll never know where we would've been with Noble but the way he was removed from his position was the start of amateur decision making.

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:29 pm  

headhunter wrote:

Salford under Noble had won 3/7 matches(43%) at the start of a season with a completely new squad, and were still in the cup after beating Hull. Salford under Harris have won 14 of 46 matches (30%) and lost in the cup to a team from the lower division. I'm not sure where this myth that things were terrible under Noble has come from, but it was worlds better than what has happened under Harris and I have no doubt the club would be much better off at this stage if Noble had been in charge for the last 18 months.

Indeed. And if my Uncle had had tits, he'd have been my Auntie. Of course we may have been better off with Noble still in charge. We could also have been worse. That part of your argument is pointless. The first part, however, is what we actually know and it makes unpleasant reading as a Salford fan.

I wasn't a Noble fan when he was appointed. I wasn't a Harris fan when he was appointed either. I did not let that prejudice anything and was willing to give them both a fair crack of the whip. It's with great dismay to vilify myself on these feelings. I'd rather be eating my hat.

Sheens coming in could be MK's best decision, after all, if the National coach of the Aussies can't do anything with us then it's fair to say nobody will. Whether he coaches or Directs proceedings, I think he will lend the Club some much needed kudos and keep our reputation from falling any further. At least for a while. If we hope to sign any name from Oz having Sheens here puts to rest any feelings of uncertainty from prospective players to.

I just wish the Club would be decisive and stop farting around.

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:45 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

I just wish the Club would be decisive and stop farting around.

I agree we haven't got the time to be messing about, we are staring down the barrel of championship rugby and even more embarrassment unless something drastic changes soon. We are in total free fall with this terrible run of results and all the off field drama over the past few weeks. The time is now for decisive action and ignoring the heart strings, it's a complete and utter mess we're in. No matter what some of us may think of Marwan Koukash I actually feel he deserves better results for what he's invested in Salford and the sport of RL.

There will be many people at this club taking home a tidy salary and it's about time some started earning it with results on the field. It's a monumental failure regardless of injuries, this squad of players should never be next to bottom of SL. The final straw was the pi$$ take team performance on Tuesday night considering we had all the extra days to recover and prepare for the game. Our opponents would have been sore and more fatigued than us but it was evident they wanted it so much more.

Yes we all want the same, stability, positivity and better results but the team have to do their bit. It does feels like treading on egg shells giving an honest opinion at times. Sensitivity, defending against criticism and finding excuses isn't going to get the club out of this hole.

Rant over.

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:22 pm  

theredshed wrote:

I agree we haven't got the time to be messing about, we are staring down the barrel of championship rugby and even more embarrassment unless something drastic changes soon. We are in total free fall with this terrible run of results and all the off field drama over the past few weeks. The time is now for decisive action and ignoring the heart strings, it's a complete and utter mess we're in. No matter what some of us may think of Marwan Koukash I actually feel he deserves better results for what he's invested in Salford and the sport of RL.

There will be many people at this club taking home a tidy salary and it's about time some started earning it with results on the field. It's a monumental failure regardless of injuries and suspensions, this squad of players should never be next to bottom of SL. The final straw was the pi$$ take team performance on Tuesday night considering we had all the extra days to recover and prepare for the game. Our opponents would have been sore and more fatigued than us but it was evident they wanted it so much more.

Yes we all want the same, stability, positivity and better results but the team have to do their bit. It does feels like treading on egg shells giving an honest opinion at times. Sensitivity, defending against criticism and finding excuses isn't going to get the club out of this hole.

Rant over.

What exactly has he invested in Salford I ask ?

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:47 pm  

Marshy1 wrote:

What exactly has he invested in Salford I ask ?

I don't know exactly but Salford apparently lost over 4 million last year and MK said at the recent press conference the club were currently 150K in the red, if I heard correctly.

Re: Harris gone. : Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:51 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

Oh and I would love to have Paul Rowley as Salford head coach. The things I would give to see Salford play a similar brand of 'care-free' and entertaining RL as Leigh have done for these past couple of seasons. In a game where people are too concerned about percentages Rowley has ripped up the coaching manual and gone about things his own way.

Because Rowley has the freedom to do it.He's never questioned? from above.The Rugby is left to the men who know,without interference from others who don't.