Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:11 am  

Towns88 wrote:

Don't think massey did anything , according to your coach it was Webster who slapped carney, but I did think at the time how the hell can only carney go for that....in typical cas fashion, we fail to score with a man extra and actually conceded 2 points. That said, salford were far better today and well worth the win.

Looked like on the footage that the ref was going to send Carney regardless.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:59 am  

Complete agree Michigan Red, the Ref had his hand in his back pocket before the melee had even had even started, not even a word to Carney, or anyone else for that matter, all you heard him say was we/I got him.

While we on the subject of the highlights, if you watch ALL 3 TRIES FOR CASS they are all forward passes. look where the feet of the player passing the last ball are , and watch where he catches the ball. That is all i will say. WE WON and that will do me. The ref tried everything to give Cass the game.

AND AS FOR THE PITCH. NO WONDER CASS HAVE GOT SO MANY INJURIES IT WAS MORE LIKE SOUTHPORT SAND DUNES, DISGRACE.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:09 am  

red in buxton wrote:

Complete agree Michigan Red, the Ref had his hand in his back pocket before the melee had even had even started, not even a word to Carney, or anyone else for that matter, all you heard him say was we/I got him.

While we on the subject of the highlights, if you watch ALL 3 TRIES FOR CASS they are all forward passes. look where the feet of the player passing the last ball are , and watch where he catches the ball. That is all i will say. WE WON and that will do me. The ref tried everything to give Cass the game.

AND AS FOR THE PITCH. NO WONDER CASS HAVE GOT SO MANY INJURIES IT WAS MORE LIKE SOUTHPORT SAND DUNES, DISGRACE.

I thought the first two tries were quite a way forward. Third one was fifty-fifty. That's the way RL goes sometimes. It's quite difficult for both the refs and touch judges to make accurate calls because they are almost always chasing the play and viewing it from behind. At ground level from any angle looking from behind it's almost impossible to call.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:49 am  

Fantastic win, our defence was outstanding and it took a couple of forward passes for Cas to break us down. I cant believe Bentham sent just Carney to the bin for that, pathetic officiating.

Really pleased with how we coped with the injury to Robert Lui and Tommy Lee really stepped it up at half-back. Our first try was a delight, nice work from Tomkins, good break from Lee and finished off by Junior and Johnson.

As far as away days go, that was up there. Good numbers and a vocal support, you could tell the players appreciated it.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:01 am  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

That last try is interesting. At the game I thought Carney had picked it up to run it under the posts to rub salt into the wounds. Did he actually get downward pressure, looks like he just picked it up to me!
Obviously made no difference, but it looked odd when I saw it live and still doesn't look right!

I've looked at it this morning again and the pressure is applied to the ball as he puts both hands on it. It does look odd, but it's definitely a try.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:14 am  

TheButcher wrote:

I've looked at it this morning again and the pressure is applied to the ball as he puts both hands on it. It does look odd, but it's definitely a try.

I agree. Given the ball was stopped in goal. All he had to do was touch it for it to be a try. I bet if, having done what he did, if he'd walked towards the posts and put it down it would have been given there though. Such are the vagaries of the downward pressure rule!

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:23 am  

A fantastic win. Gaz O'Brien take a bow son. With this injury to Robert Lui only recently i've be advocating to move O'Brien to Stand off and bring in Evalds into fullback, but i'm not so sure now. With Gaz's delightful dazzling displays at No1 why change it, why risk hindering a players superb displays when we can juggle things round elsewhere. I'm very disappointed with Logan's discipline and attitude at the moment however me thinks Tommy Lee would be a wise move playing at No6 like what happened at Castleford yesterday. I'd then bring in young Wilkinson to the bench and to share game time with Logan. Preferably i'd want three forwards on the bench however something has to be sacrificed for Lui's injury. So the question to Walter and Mr Sheens is "Do we give Niall a run at No1, Revert O'Brien to No6 or do we draft Tommy Lee to No6 and give shared game time to Logan and Wilkinson at hooker only if the lad is obviously ready for the challenge. I'm sat on the fence with this decision as i wouldn't want to hinder O'Briens form and i also want to see Naill given a run out to challenge for his No1 jersey. The reason i'd prefer Tommy Lee at No6 is that our attack would remain a three pivot attack which has been fruitful for us, whereas with O'Brien at No6 that attack gets reduced to Two pivots hence my late change in opinion. Nice headaches for a change if there's any improvement to be gained in Evald's game its asserting an improvement in his third pivot role which i've no doubt he can muster.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:42 am  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

A fantastic win. Gaz O'Brien take a bow son. With this injury to Robert Lui only recently i've be advocating to move O'Brien to Stand off and bring in Evalds into fullback, but i'm not so sure now. With Gaz's delightful dazzling displays at No1 why change it, why risk hindering a players superb displays when we can juggle things round elsewhere. I'm very disappointed with Logan's discipline and attitude at the moment however me thinks Tommy Lee would be a wise move playing at No6 like what happened at Castleford yesterday. I'd then bring in young Wilkinson to the bench and to share game time with Logan. Preferably i'd want three forwards on the bench however something has to be sacrificed for Lui's injury. So the question to Walter and Mr Sheens is "Do we give Niall a run at No1, Revert O'Brien to No6 or do we draft Tommy Lee to No6 and give shared game time to Logan and Wilkinson at hooker only if the lad is obviously ready for the challenge. I'm sat on the fence with this decision as i wouldn't want to hinder O'Briens form and i also want to see Naill given a run out to challenge for his No1 jersey. The reason i'd prefer Tommy Lee at No6 is that our attack would remain a three pivot attack which has been fruitful for us, whereas with O'Brien at No6 that attack gets reduced to Two pivots hence my late change in opinion. Nice headaches for a change if there's any improvement to be gained in Evald's game its asserting an improvement in his third pivot role which i've no doubt he can muster.

It's a nice headache to have for us for a change, and to be honest, I wouldn't be disappointed with any of the scenarios so far offered. GOB to halves with Evalds at FB, Tommy Lee at HB with GOB retaining FB. Lee was very good against Cas and is very consistent so may possibly get the nod for next week. Tomkins does need to get a grip of his discipline, and I think if we had a stronger line-up in the hooking role he probably wouldn't be getting close to the minutes he has been doing. C'est la vie I suppose.

I can see the trip to HKR being tricky as they're desperate for points, and a wounded animal can still be dangerous. This is the type of game we would definitely lose after a good performance last year. Hopefully our new squad can remain consistent and apply a bit of ruthlessness next week by putting them to the sword.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:52 am  

On GOB as a fan who has seen him play more times than Salford fans, you absolutely have to keep him at FB.

Gaz is a very good pro, lovely fella, braver than most players considering his stature, fantastic kicker of the ball and he can put some real snow on those kicks.
Hisipass selection is good, his reading of the game is good, handling and tackling all very good.
Not the quickest lad and not the strongest as you're probably seeing with his kick returns. The other big problem is 'overthink' as i call it, he gets caught a lot with the ball, he isn't the best with limited time and forwards bearing down on him.
This move to FB is a revelation, something that would never happens at Wire as FB is a position that we seem to have too much cover in.
The FB role gives him time to think and that makes his game so much stronger, he only chimes in when he thinks it's right and he's been playing really well at fb.

We gave him a bit of stick at the game, par for the course but very very few wire fans will pan him, we know he has great qualities and potential, he was always a square peg in a round hole at Wire though.

You absolutely have to keep him at FB and i say that as an O'Brien fan not a Salford fan.

Re: Cas away. : Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:02 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

It's a nice headache to have for us for a change, and to be honest, I wouldn't be disappointed with any of the scenarios so far offered. GOB to halves with Evalds at FB, Tommy Lee at HB with GOB retaining FB. Lee was very good against Cas and is very consistent so may possibly get the nod for next week. Tomkins does need to get a grip of his discipline, and I think if we had a stronger line-up in the hooking role he probably wouldn't be getting close to the minutes he has been doing. C'est la vie I suppose.

I can see the trip to HKR being tricky as they're desperate for points, and a wounded animal can still be dangerous. This is the type of game we would definitely lose after a good performance last year. Hopefully our new squad can remain consistent and apply a bit of ruthlessness next week by putting them to the sword.

Hull KR is always a tricky banana skin of a tie. whether its a league, cup or playoff game. Does anybody know how Albert Kelly and Campese's injury woes are at present. Having these two unavailable for selection instil's me with more confidence of coming away with the two points. They're a completely different beast with Kelly and Campese.