Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:27 pm  

Wirecutter wrote:

Nothing personal but Mauro, Foran and McGoldrick have all proved to be shocking signings. I am at a total loss at how Mauro figured in an NRL Grand Final. .

Appearing in GF's (Tim Jonkers ) is no guarantee you are making a good signing.
Paul Carige appeared in a Grand Final for the Eels , and regularly comes top in worst overseas signing ever ,
the above 3 ' Stooges ' are pushing him close

Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:29 pm  

middleman wrote:

Appearing in GF's (Tim Jonkers ) is no guarantee you are making a good signing.
Paul Carige appeared in a Grand Final for the Eels , and regularly comes top in worst overseas signing ever ,
the above 3 ' Stooges ' are pushing him close

Bad but not that bad.......yet......

Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:21 pm  

middleman wrote:

Appearing in GF's (Tim Jonkers ) is no guarantee you are making a good signing.
Paul Carige appeared in a Grand Final for the Eels , and regularly comes top in worst overseas signing ever ,
the above 3 ' Stooges ' are pushing him close

Didn't Paul Carige single-handedly lose the Grand Final for Parramatta?

Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:59 am  

Wirecutter wrote: It doesn't excuse just signing any overseas players willing to jump on a plane. The fact is Vievers made a terrible error of judgement on the quality, cost and contract duration of these signings and now Noble has inherited a major problem that needs sorting out. There are always risks with every signing-particularly those from overseas. Peter Gentle at Hull FC signed a regular from the NRL in Seymour and he has suffered from depression with the much reported end to his career at that club.I would suspect more money was spent on him. We have also had one 'supporter' having a go at Foran on Twitter.Hardly helpful. I don't have the best links but I have one touching on Matt King having a difficult first year at Warrington and Morley in Australia HERE and there is the famous soccer one where the manager who signred him was sacked and then the player went on to great things;and he only flew in from Europe Story There is also the 'other brother' syndrome which appears to be a very difficult task to overcome. I have just watched the Sky coverage of the Etihad victory and it was Foran who got under Pickersgill to save a certain try.That determination has not been repeated by anyone in the 2 subsequent 80 minute appearances. Be a good test to see how Noble gets an improvement from Foran knowing the upheaval at the club over the past months/year. There is a quote I quite like from Ella Wilcox - A pat on the back is only a few vertebrae removed from a kick in the pants, but is miles ahead in results.

Wirecutter wrote: It doesn't excuse just signing any overseas players willing to jump on a plane. The fact is Vievers made a terrible error of judgement on the quality, cost and contract duration of these signings and now Noble has inherited a major problem that needs sorting out. There are always risks with every signing-particularly those from overseas. Peter Gentle at Hull FC signed a regular from the NRL in Seymour and he has suffered from depression with the much reported end to his career at that club.I would suspect more money was spent on him. We have also had one 'supporter' having a go at Foran on Twitter.Hardly helpful. I don't have the best links but I have one touching on Matt King having a difficult first year at Warrington and Morley in Australia HERE and there is the famous soccer one where the manager who signred him was sacked and then the player went on to great things;and he only flew in from Europe Story There is also the 'other brother' syndrome which appears to be a very difficult task to overcome. I have just watched the Sky coverage of the Etihad victory and it was Foran who got under Pickersgill to save a certain try.That determination has not been repeated by anyone in the 2 subsequent 80 minute appearances. Be a good test to see how Noble gets an improvement from Foran knowing the upheaval at the club over the past months/year. There is a quote I quite like from Ella Wilcox - A pat on the back is only a few vertebrae removed from a kick in the pants, but is miles ahead in results.

Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:40 pm  

I remember a Mr Richards being slated by the gooners in his first season.

Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:53 pm  

I think Foran has done ok but is he worth the contract and the build up he got, I would say no. Mauro is shocking. You could ask anyone to go and do what he does (or doesn't) on the pitch.

I am baffled by Noble's playing of McGoldrick. He is clearly past it and has done little since being in the team other than almost bring us a defeat against Castleford in the last minutes with some rank indiscipline.

I do think Noble should throw the youngsters in. If there has been one success this season it is the emergence of young players.

Fages shows promise but is not yet a first choice Super League scrum half but his experience this year has put him on the way to being one.

Sneyd has made errors for sure but has been one of better players this season. I am mystified why Owen is not getting in the side. He brings pace and creativity around the play the ball. Him and Godwin worked perfectly well together.

Walne has gone well since he came in the side and Evalds too has never let himself down.

Surely, they must all get extended runs between now and the end of the season. They may just save us some money that can be invested elsewhere.

Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:28 pm  

Agree totally stadge

Re: I feel sorry for Brian Noble : Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:26 pm  

stadge wrote: I do think Noble should throw the youngsters in. If there has been one success this season it is the emergence of young players. Interesting to see the emergence of youngsters this year at other clubs in Super League and the quality of those from Championship clubs. I would prefer the youngsters to start away from home but after Monday night they may just be the way to keep the supporters onside. With young Files getting rave reports at Oldham in Championship 1 another Walne is well thought of at Worky Certainly looking good for Jam tomorrow

stadge wrote: I do think Noble should throw the youngsters in. If there has been one success this season it is the emergence of young players. Interesting to see the emergence of youngsters this year at other clubs in Super League and the quality of those from Championship clubs. I would prefer the youngsters to start away from home but after Monday night they may just be the way to keep the supporters onside. With young Files getting rave reports at Oldham in Championship 1 another Walne is well thought of at Worky Certainly looking good for Jam tomorrow