Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 12:29 pm  

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ed-7188734

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ed-7188734

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 12:49 pm  

Hillbilly_Red wrote:

I see what you mean but could it be a mishearing of " to play one way and then a new one has come in and wants them to play differently"?

Possibly.

That's the wording on Sky Sports.

You could be right.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 1:13 pm  

I think he said "They had a coach who coached them to play one day..." meaning the game at home to Castleford.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 2:22 pm  

Sorry but i wasn't taking much interest at the time but what was the selection process before Nobby was chosen. Was he on a short list of applicants to be interviewed or was he recommended to the doctor. Its a genuine question and as others have said as more little snippets leak out it seems an increasingly bad decision. It seems to have been a wasted season because of it but Harris is saying all the right things and i think he's as good as any one for next season.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 2:51 pm  

newgroundb4wakey wrote:

Sorry but i wasn't taking much interest at the time but what was the selection process before Nobby was chosen. Was he on a short list of applicants to be interviewed or was he recommended to the doctor. Its a genuine question and as others have said as more little snippets leak out it seems an increasingly bad decision. It seems to have been a wasted season because of it but Harris is saying all the right things and i think he's as good as any one for next season.

Something's changed then, because you can't stop thinking about us now.

One or two names were mentioned - including Tim Sheens and Peter Gentle - but it's hard to know whether they were ever really in the frame or were just press speculation. I suspect Nobby was recommended to Marwan by Nigel Wood, but there's no way of knowing for sure because, unlike Cas fans who seem to have an ESP link to all their players and to Marwan, we're not able to know what the thinking was.

Some of us were less than sure Nobby was the right man for the job. I was one of them, but I really wanted him to prove me wrong because he comes across as a damn' decent bloke. Sadly, it turns out he probably was the wrong man. Iestyn is now making the right noises, although he's still unproven.

Hopefully, all that's happened is that Marwan's evil master plan for total overlordship of the RL universe has been put back by 12 months.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 3:10 pm  

I believe the season was jeopardised the moment Noble was informed about Harris being appointed head coach. I think the Doc naively listened to a few underperforming players and acted on impulse. It’s extremely unlikely we would be in this predicament now had Noble still been in charge. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think we would be in the top 6 but I believe Noble would have galvanised 2-3 more wins.

I'm sure Marwan will now realise the mistake and will now regret not letting Noble see out his contract this year. The problem with changing a coach during the season is obvious and we have all seen the negative impact this has had on performances. I think the Doc should have rode it out and then paid the big bucks for an Aussie coach with a proven record of success. It’s nothing personal against Harris who may still come good but it still feels like too much of a gamble for a club with money and ambition.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 3:35 pm  

Ave It! wrote: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/iestyn-harris-column-salford-red-7188734 Has to be one of the finest press statements I have ever seen from any British coach.I doff my cap to Mr Harris. With regard to the previous head coach,the one who 'bigged up' the Red Devilution but seems to have taken on the omerta I can only contrast him with the situation in the NRL where the recently sacked coach made a press release which included the words - “I am grateful for the opportunities that the Dragons have provided me over all my years associated with the Club and would like to thank all involved,” he said in the release. “I’d like to wish Paul and the playing group all the very best.” Source Despite all of the opportunities afforded to Mr Noble,and with his press and media relationships Mr Harris has surpassed all of that with this particular press statement - his understanding for the supporters and Dr K is considerate and circumspect in the extreme and has not,and can not,be matched or mastered.

Ave It! wrote: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/iestyn-harris-column-salford-red-7188734 Has to be one of the finest press statements I have ever seen from any British coach.I doff my cap to Mr Harris. With regard to the previous head coach,the one who 'bigged up' the Red Devilution but seems to have taken on the omerta I can only contrast him with the situation in the NRL where the recently sacked coach made a press release which included the words - “I am grateful for the opportunities that the Dragons have provided me over all my years associated with the Club and would like to thank all involved,” he said in the release. “I’d like to wish Paul and the playing group all the very best.” Source Despite all of the opportunities afforded to Mr Noble,and with his press and media relationships Mr Harris has surpassed all of that with this particular press statement - his understanding for the supporters and Dr K is considerate and circumspect in the extreme and has not,and can not,be matched or mastered.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 3:44 pm  

Red-Devils-PAW wrote:

Has to be one of the finest press statements I have ever seen from any British coach.I doff my cap to Mr Harris.

Reads like the usual clichés, platitudes and bullsh*t that get paraded in these situations to me.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 3:49 pm  

Red-Devils-PAW wrote: Has to be one of the finest press statements I have ever seen from any British coach.I doff my cap to Mr Harris. With regard to the previous head coach,the one who 'bigged up' the Red Devilution but seems to have taken on the omerta I can only contrast him with the situation in the NRL where the recently sacked coach made a press release which included the words - “I am grateful for the opportunities that the Dragons have provided me over all my years associated with the Club and would like to thank all involved,” he said in the release. “I’d like to wish Paul and the playing group all the very best.” Source Despite all of the opportunities afforded to Mr Noble,and with his press and media relationships Mr Harris has surpassed all of that with this particular press statement - his understanding for the supporters and Dr K is considerate and circumspect in the extreme and has not,and can not,be matched or mastered. With respect Harris is judged on results and not what he says to the media. I interpret the Harris press statement as buying some time by attempting to win over some people by - 1. Expressing an understanding of how disappointed the owner and supporters must feel. 2. Complimenting the supporters on how vocal we are considering the smaller numbers of us.

Red-Devils-PAW wrote: Has to be one of the finest press statements I have ever seen from any British coach.I doff my cap to Mr Harris. With regard to the previous head coach,the one who 'bigged up' the Red Devilution but seems to have taken on the omerta I can only contrast him with the situation in the NRL where the recently sacked coach made a press release which included the words - “I am grateful for the opportunities that the Dragons have provided me over all my years associated with the Club and would like to thank all involved,” he said in the release. “I’d like to wish Paul and the playing group all the very best.” Source Despite all of the opportunities afforded to Mr Noble,and with his press and media relationships Mr Harris has surpassed all of that with this particular press statement - his understanding for the supporters and Dr K is considerate and circumspect in the extreme and has not,and can not,be matched or mastered. With respect Harris is judged on results and not what he says to the media. I interpret the Harris press statement as buying some time by attempting to win over some people by - 1. Expressing an understanding of how disappointed the owner and supporters must feel. 2. Complimenting the supporters on how vocal we are considering the smaller numbers of us.

Re: harris out : Thu May 29, 2014 4:49 pm  

Red-Devils-PAW wrote:

With regard to the previous head coach,the one who 'bigged up' the Red Devilution but seems to have taken on the omerta .

Did Brian Noble drive over your cat,or something ?
Bearing in mind the way MK mishandled his exit,not necessarily the decision but the way it was done,I would have thought that Nobles silence is a result and reinforces the guys class