Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:12 am  

For me one word...Howarth.

How we've let Gaz Owen go out on loan I cannot understand, too many mistakes and too slow around the ruck, this is definately an area we need to improve on, we either have to bring in some one to compliment Lee or bring Owen back.

Hansen was outstanding and as someone mentioned didnt deserve to be on the losing side, we also look better when Moz starts.

Feel we are missing the killer instinct and flare to break the line at the momnet, its a long road ahead, only 4th competive game together as a team and weve been missing our star man for almost the 4.

I think a few young additions to the squad would make all the difference, I'd give the Walne brothers a chance.

Too many of the forwards are prone to injury and playing heavily strapped, McPherson, Puletua and Rapira looks like an amubulence case to me, not played in nearly 12 months has 2 starts for us and injured again, could end up being a real damp squid which is a shame as he looked quite a handy player before his injury in the NRL.

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:15 am  

So we were beaten, there was a big improvement from last week and yet again we picked up injures at crucial times in the game.
The referee if you can call him that made some interesting calls.(the Dr made his thoughts heard at the end picked up by sky ).
The team will take some hart out of the game, a lot of reds fans will be having a go at the team but like they say they need time ,a lot of disruption with injures has not helped but our time will come at the right end of the season, let’s all stay with them as good times are just around the corner.

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:26 am  

When is the man of steel 2011 due back?

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:44 am  

I agree refn hooker and smith is also too slow and seems past it
Fages seems the part though
Those are the games you need to win to hit the play offs

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:45 am  

Towns88 wrote:

When is the man of steel 2011 due back?

No word yet, but interestingly it could be the Cas game.

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:53 am  

i thought tommy lee had a really good game. lots of question marks around the signing of lee but has been 1 of the better players

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:58 am  

St pete wrote:

I'll be honest, I don't like the noises that the doc has been making since he took over. It's all this crap he's spouting about it's for the good of rugby league. I'd rather he just be honest and admit he just wants to buy success for Salford and it's not rugby league he has at heart.

You mean you don't like anything that could reduce Saints' standing in the game? Little clubs like Salford should just know their place, eh?

ex-salfordian wrote:

Lets be honest with ourselves....we are slow... predictable....and if we cant beat widnes we will not have a chance against good teams.. time for change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) We're four games in with a 50% win ratio. Calm down.
2) You only need one exclamation mark. Calm down.

Defensively we always looked frail last night, especially when the ball went out wide. Too many missed / non-attempted tackles. Going forward we just seemed to have no spark or creativity. The biggest worry, though, was the body language. Even when we'd just scored two quick drives the players had their heads down and didn't look up for it. Low on confidence, maybe?

Not time to panic yet, although the next three games do worry me. We just need a bit of spark, hopefully players returning from injury can help provide that.

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:06 am  

Once rangi returns you'll score plenty. All the preaseason Tim smith will have been working with rangi, so for him to be missing is throwing a spanner in the works (not that faces is doing bad) but RC is the main man, he's the turkey in your Xmas dinner, the beef in your burger, the toffee on your pudding...and you've had him for 20 mins so far????

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:06 am  

*fages.

Re: Widnes on thursday : Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:14 am  

LincolnDEVILSFan wrote:

Got to say, you can see a visible difference whenever Howarth is on the pitch, the whole structure falls apart. I just can't get my head around sending Owen out on loan keeping hold of Howarth. If there's two players I definitely don't think are super league material one's Howarth and the other is Dixon.

I can't see what Noble sees in Howarth over Owen either, or why he deems him good enough to start the match. Unfortunately as you Salford fans are probably now aware Noble is very much a coach who has his favourites and those favourites will always play unless injured. Sadly for Salford, Howarth seems to be one of those favourites, and I agree with you that he isn't SL standard. Add to that that he is only playing at hooker as he is physically and skilfully not up to playing stand-off or loose forward and it only makes his selection over an actual hooker worse.

Over the next couple of years Noble will be capable of stabilising you as a 6th to 8th place finishing club and can get you to the latter stages of the cup but you will have to put up with him always choosing his favourites for as long as he is there. Going off your performances so far you seem more destined for 8th to 10th this year rather than 6th to 8th though and if that happens you may not have to put up with Noble's favouritism for that long.