Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:47 pm  

DEVILS2015 wrote:

Yes the Doc is a controversial character and doesn't give a flying Fc*uk what the RFL or other owners think of him, but at the end of the day he's putting by far the most money into the Sport and without him Salford would be in the Championship with only a dream of getting back into the Super League.

Despite all the off the field controversies and unfair treatment by the RFL, he's still not giving up and has attracted the most high profile coach in the game to the club Tim Sheens. I would say we've got the best team of players we've ever had and over the next 3 years we will undoubted turn into a top 6 side.

The RFL have to be very carefully with Koukash, if they mickey him off enough, he will leave and it's going to have an adverse effect on attracting future investment to the sport.

How many clubs in Super League make a profit every year? 4? That means that the sport is ultimately dependent on wealthy fans like Koukash who decided to invest in there favorite club. Don't mickey off the people who are putting their money in and who are more powerful than the people who run the game ie Nigel Wood and Blake Solly it will bite you in the booty!

What unfair treatment by the RFL are you referring to?

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:57 pm  

I know this might be controversial, but has anyone found anywhere where the RFL have stated the maximum penalty is 20 points?
The only thing I can see is that the RFL have stated is that they have "issued charges in relation to alleged breaches" of the salary cap. Notice the plural.
Now, my understanding (which is just MY understanding and might not be correct) is that each charge will carry a maximum penalty of 20 points.
So, if there are two charges (one for breaching the cap in 2014 and one for doing so in 2015) and each offence carries a maximum points dedication of 20 points, this is a possible total of 40 points.
Additionally, if there is a seperate charge for making undisclosed payments to players (which is a different operational rule from actually breaching the cap financially) there could be further deductions. For each player the club have paid outside the operational rules there could be a further 20 point penalty. So (just hypothetically of course) if payments outside the operational rules have been made to Puletua, Chase, Locke, Tim Smith and Hock that could potentially be a total further deduction of 100 points (we are up to 140 points so far).

I know it's unlikely, but they only FACTS we know are that there is more than one offence and every offence of breaching the operational rules carries a maximum deduction of 20 points.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:26 pm  

DEVILS2015 wrote:

Yes the Doc is a controversial character and doesn't give a flying Fc*uk what the RFL or other owners think of him, but at the end of the day he's putting by far the most money into the Sport and without him Salford would be in the Championship with only a dream of getting back into the Super League.

Despite all the off the field controversies and unfair treatment by the RFL, he's still not giving up and has attracted the most high profile coach in the game to the club Tim Sheens. I would say we've got the best team of players we've ever had and over the next 3 years we will undoubted turn into a top 6 side.

The RFL have to be very carefully with Koukash, if they mickey him off enough, he will leave and it's going to have an adverse effect on attracting future investment to the sport.

How many clubs in Super League make a profit every year? 4? That means that the sport is ultimately dependent on wealthy fans like Koukash who decided to invest in there favorite club. Don't mickey off the people who are putting their money in and who are more powerful than the people who run the game ie Nigel Wood and Blake Solly it will bite you in the booty!

If you think cockrash is good for this game then your f****n deluded....The sooner that cretin f***s off the better........

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:36 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

So you think the game should be beholden to a few wealthy owners and their whims? That doesn't sound like a good plan for long term stability

I think the Sports governing body should understand that the clubs are ultimately dependent on rich owners like Koukash, Beaumont, Pearson etc. There's only about 4/5 clubs that are self sustainable, if the RFL keep screwing over the people who are putting the most money into the game they will lose out on future investment in the Sports.

Hypothetically Marwan Koukash comes out of Salford now and goes to the press and claims he has lost £5m trying to do his best to help the game of RL but ultimately failed in the process. When someone with a few quids fancies financially supporting their club in the future they may see that and think twice before putting their hard earned cash in.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:44 pm  

Keiththered wrote:

What unfair treatment by the RFL are you referring to?

A lot of promises that were made to him when he took over the club.

Not many people know this but the RFL have taken away £50,000 funding per year away from our academy for the next 4 YEARS

Excessive fines just because he's got a few quid. Fielding 14 players fined £15,000 Saints did the same and got fined jack $h1t!

The ridiculous points deduction whats about to take place even though Wigan, Warrington, Catalan and Leeds are all miles over the cap too, or have been in the past but it's been simply swept under the carpet.

Honestly who the hell would even bother putting the money in it must drive you insane with these ar$e holes at Red Hall running the show.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:49 pm  

DEVILS2015 wrote:

A lot of promises that were made to him when he took over the club.

Not many people know this but the RFL have taken away £50,000 funding per year away from our academy for the next 4 YEARS

Excessive fines just because he's got a few quid. Fielding 14 players fined £15,000 Saints did the same and got fined jack $h1t!

The ridiculous points deduction whats about to take place even though Wigan, Warrington, Catalan and Leeds are all miles over the cap too, or have been in the past but it's been simply swept under the carpet.

Honestly who the hell would even bother putting the money in it must drive you insane with these ar$e holes at Red Hall running the show.

You are Marwan Koukash and I claim my £5.00.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:53 pm  

jetblack74 wrote:

If you think cockrash is good for this game then your f****n deluded....The sooner that cretin f***s off the better........

Where did I say that Koukash is good for the game?

Businessmen like himself and Simon Moran who are pouring millions into the sport are good for the game.

I'll say it again the sports is dependent on MILLIONAIRES money apart from a small amount of self-sustainable clubs, without them we have no game and we certainly won't be able to take the sport to the next level which is what we need to achieve in this country. The growth of Super League is awful compared to the NRL and Rugby Union.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:57 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

You are Marwan Koukash and I claim my £5.00.

I'm not and you can give me that £5 after Carney scores the winner next Sunday

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:59 pm  

DEVILS2015 wrote:

I'm not and you can give me that £5 after Carney scores the winner next Sunday

Unfortunately I think this is more than likely.
It will certainly be interesting to see how he copes with the reception he will no doubt get from players and fans alike.
Just hope I don't have the pleasepurenormsitting next to Koukash again this year.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:21 pm  

Evening sheriff still getting your jollies out off this
Guess it gives the sixth fingers some exercise