: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:45 am  

orford_addict wrote:

it is a well known fact that whenever one person in a group has the hump it rubs off on other people and the snow-ball effect continues

the same in rugby both on & off the field : one player doesn`t perform and it snow-balls through the team; in the terraces booing snow-balls out of control because we only see what's happening before our eyes and not the reasoning why it is happening

I have been a long-standing believer that whilst it is tortuously difficult at present as fans we should not boo nor chant, we do (well some do, I don't) because we are human and we get caught up in the emotional part the game

as fans we have all indirectly "signed up" to the fact that players are only human after all and if we respect ourselves and the players we should give the players the fullest of support at this very difficult time

the cycle is exceptionally difficult to break but as fans we have to remain positive for the SAKE OF THE PLAYERS

Are these the same players who have produced the longest losing run in the club's history? If you don't let them know how bad you feel about that, then some of them will feel it is still acceptable to go on the field wearing a Warrington shirt and not give a toss. Booing these kind of perfomances is completely understandable. Put the effort in and you won't get abuse, simple.

Tony Smith after the quins game : Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:19 pm  

Warrington coach Tony Smith:
"As far as I am concerned we have hit the lowest point, but sometimes you have to reach that to start climbing again.

"The players have to make a choice. They can either go and sulk or stick with me and try to rectify things.

"The scoreboard rarely lies and we were comfortably second best today.

"I thought both sides started shakily, but Quins tightened up and we didn't, so we have no complaints about the result

Re: Tony Smith after the quins game : Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:26 pm  

howley-wire wrote:

Warrington coach Tony Smith:
"As far as I am concerned we have hit the lowest point, but sometimes you have to reach that to start climbing again.

"The players have to make a choice. They can either go and sulk or stick with me and try to rectify things.

"The scoreboard rarely lies and we were comfortably second best today.

"I thought both sides started shakily, but Quins tightened up and we didn't, so we have no complaints about the result

No $*** sherlock

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:46 pm  

BIGAL1 wrote:

IMO he's spot on with that, he will ask the players to respond and if they don't he'll move them on, i just hope the club will back him fully on this.

Lets face it JL would rant and rave and threaten the players and that won't work, so let TS do his job and weed out the unwanted ones. It won't be easy and it won't happen overnight but he will do it.

I'm sure he's seen enough already and will take whatever steps are needed to solve the problems but he'll do it in his own laid back way.

Just a outsider looking in

If the club don't back him then he'll walk out IMO.

Then the real truth will come out as Smith will probably tell everyone why.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:08 pm  

MrF wrote:

Despite the scoreline yesterday (and I can't comment on the performance because I didn't see it) I am quite encouraged by the cut of Tony Smith's jib.

Had things been OK at the club, he wouldn't have been employed, he has been brought in to sort out the problem. The last 2 weeks has shown him the extent of the problem ie - we can compete with the current champions one week and then roll over either side of that (Wakefield / London) to a bunch of journeymen pros who are well drilled, well coached and work as a team. Warrington Wolves is an enigma - quality players who can walk with champions and rollover to the alsorans !!

We must not judge Smith on this season, he needs time to sort things out - he obvioulsy knows what needs doing, everyone - board / players / fans - must stay with him, whatever it takes.

That's your problem mate, no Super league team is full of journeymen. You've got the Wigan attitude of thinking no other tean can match you so they should just roll over and die. Ask the Wire fans at the Stoop yesterday if they thought Danny Orr played like a journeyman, or Will Sharp or Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook - they were outstanding.

The only negative Quins fans have from yesterday is that our team win't get anything like the credit they deserve from the media for such a fantastic performance.

Re: Tony Smith after the quins game : Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:14 pm  

howley-wire wrote:

Warrington coach Tony Smith:


"The players have to make a choice. They can either go and sulk or stick with me and try to rectify things.

I think there is a big clue in that particular statement....I think Smith as already recognised that we have a few players who are feeling sorry for themselves, and without sounding dramatic, these players would prefer to be anywhere but Warrington RLFC.

There are the obvious candidates that this is aimed at, Monaghan and King's alleged homesickness, Gleeson's desire to move countries, and there are undoubtedly others that we can only speculate about.

I believe Smith's most immediate job is to inject some passion back into the club....This has been missing for a good while, not just during this run of results...I think we need to find 2 or 3 characters, not neccessarily world-beaters, who can lift a side through sheer enthusiasm...A Nat Wood, a Brad Drew, a Ryan Hudson, players, who whilst limited ability wise, have the knack of lifting a team, and with it, the crowd and all around them.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:41 pm  

Just got back from London and by all accounts the team are an absolute disgrace, No pride, No passion and No shame.

Half a dozen players deserve the sack now and half a dozen deserve another chance, if they don't take that chance they need to go as well, defense is pathetic in all areas of the pitch, attack is clueless, kicking game is shocking and as i have said not so long ago, it wasn't the fault of Lowes that these players are garbage and Tony Smith will do absolutely nothing with the current crop simply because there only here for a free ride, easy money and the beer.
We are IMO officially a club in crises who have lost 5 from 5, conceded 194 points and has no ambition and no willingness to succeed, we have 3 years with no relegation, offload the dross and bring in the kids because we need to rebuild our club from top to bottom and until we do that you wont see another trophy in the cabinet.