Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:49 pm  

I wanted to compare the 2024 GF winning side, with our side that lost at Hull KR. In bold are those players I believe are more effective in their position.

So maybe we are not that far off in playing talent after all.

Dufty Field - very close, but edging Dufty on the basis of this season.
Thewlis, Miski - I have these equal. Solid wingers.
Tai, Keighran - Solid centre if not great but good kicker. Some attacking skills.
King, Wardle - No contest for overall centre play and can do everything King can.
Ashton; Marshall - Raw pace and finishing. He would be leading try scorer playing for Wigan.
Williams, French - A freak of RL one of the best players in the World currently, against our best player
Drinkwater; Smith - No contest
Vaughan, Havard - Vaughan when he is not having a titty lip.
Walker, Leeming - Edge towards Walker for work rate and kicking.
Harrison, Thompson - He was superb last night, played all first half.
Bateman, Farrell - I have these level.
Nicholson, Nsemba - Nsemba is going to be an absolute star.
Currie. Ellis - Currie has had a great season.

Powell, Forber
Yates Dupree - Defensive titan. A really good signing.
Crowther, Byrne - Size
Philbin Mago - Real impact.


It backs up my view we need to strengthen right centre (Lindop?), scrum half and 2nd row.

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:54 pm  

Shows we struggle up front does that.

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:55 pm  

Then again if we can get Fitzgibbon through a season that would help but I’m not convinced

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:57 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Then again if we can get Fitzgibbon through a season that would help but I’m not convinced

It's a risk for sure.

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:59 pm  

I think you're being generous giving us seven players there, especially with two draws meaning you're only giving Wigan eight. They're more than that better than us, let's be honest.

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:03 pm  

Barstool Preacher wrote:

I think you're being generous giving us seven players there, especially with two draws meaning you're only giving Wigan eight. They're more than that better than us, let's be honest.

Yeah maybe a little generous. So are we on a hiding to nothing then? If individually they are better and then in terms of collective winning mentality they are better also?

Maybe we need to hope for them going stale, losing the desire and a few players retiring ...

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:06 pm  

Ellis does everything currie does but better. Which is frustrating as he came over as s bit part middle.

Miles better in the 13 shirt than smithies was

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:09 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Maybe we need to hope for them going stale, losing the desire and a few players retiring ...

That's pretty much what I'm hoping for, yeah!

In reality, things are cyclical. It was less than two years ago that Saints were the ones looking invincible. Now it's Wigan.

The key essentially is for us to get things right at the right time, rather than when one team is head and shoulders above the rest. I do realise that's much easier said than done.

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:11 pm  

I have spoken a lot with some about mentality. The whole team have to buy into it. No disrespect intended here but you look at Salford not exactly a team of superstars but they have played way above expectations. Yes that is a lot to do with Rowley getting them to play his way and that’s down to right mental attitude.

It’s all well and good having top class players but you have to buy into the mentality of the coach and club. I like to think we are now going in that direction.

Re: Comparison with Wigan 17 : Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:20 pm  

Keeping hold of Burgess is vital, and if the NRL does come calling and he can't resist, then getting his replacement right is even more vital.

Peet is a brilliant coach, but he had a stronger hand than Burgess when he first got the job. Burgess has done what looked impossible a year ago in unifying a broken dressing room. I think he was only able to do that because there isn't a single person in rugby league who doesn't respect him.

I really hope we can win the big one with him, because if not then I fear another few steps backwards.