Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:26 am  

Velcro Boots wrote:

I might get tied up in knots for this but....... I am Wire through and through but if i was in his position being offered the same between Warrington and Wigan currently i know who i would be choosing and what i would want to be part of, i hope he sees something us regular fans don't see. Glad he picked us i think he improves on any team in SL

He's down the pecking order at Wigan. He won't be with us. Probably be our #1 prop when Vaughan goes. Plus he has already won every honour available in the game.

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:28 am  

Or thane wrote:

Byrne in and Vaughan out, so even if we did keep Musgrove (hope not) and Tai we'll have 2 quota spots, As Yates will not count on the quota if the new rules come in to affect next year.
I think King will have to take a pay cut next year regardless of where he goes so we very well might keep him. Unless as said in previous comments, Wrench and Lindop develop well this year and can take the centre spots. Will ease our Salary cap and fill our centre spots for quite awhile.
Also i still think Max Wood offers more than Musgrove in every game i've seen. Even though he's smaller he has a slightly better impact than musgrove, has much better skill and plays 2-3 times longer than musgrove, so it could well be Wood who takes his spot. And i hope Luke Thomas gets some game time this year, and can build on what we saw before his injury. And we have Green and Whitehead in the wings, so fingers crossed they continue to develop.
All in all i think we're looking good long term

Good post. I cannot think of any reason at all as to why we would extend Musgrove and use a quota spot on him. Underwhelming is the kindest word I can use to describe his performances in the PnB.

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:31 am  

Douglas Black wrote:

King did fit perfectly into the Wigan system and they expected him to play a solid game, we expected him to be a world beater.

Wigan had that luxury as we were still paying a chunk of his world beater salary.

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:42 am  

Wires71 wrote:

Wigan had that luxury as we were still paying a chunk of his world beater salary.

Some of the Wigan fans not opposed to him going back.

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:19 am  

karetaker wrote:

Some of the Wigan fans not opposed to him going back.

Yeah I read a few comments. Do you think they will maintain his current salary? Maybe we could do a swap deal for Wardle.

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:30 am  

Wires71 wrote:

Yeah I read a few comments. Do you think they will maintain his current salary? Maybe we could do a swap deal for Wardle.

If the salary is as high as we all think it is then it is highly unlikely to be maintained by ourselves or other interested parties. If we were to offer a new contract can it be on reduced terms or does it have to match the current one?

Either way no news will be announced immediately due to his testimonial and that could be detrimental for him were he to announce his departure in the immediate future.

I suspect he will return to Wigan on a lower contract but as they continue to keep winning no doubt the bonuses will make up the shortfall

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:43 am  

RoyalWire wrote:

If the salary is as high as we all think it is then it is highly unlikely to be maintained by ourselves or other interested parties. If we were to offer a new contract can it be on reduced terms or does it have to match the current one?

Either way no news will be announced immediately due to his testimonial and that could be detrimental for him were he to announce his departure in the immediate future.

I suspect he will return to Wigan on a lower contract but as they continue to keep winning no doubt the bonuses will make up the shortfall

All his Christmas’s came at once when he got his current deal. He as to be realistic and know he will not get anywhere near it again. It’s a case of which club offers him the best money he can get, it’s not about what he can win at this stage.

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:59 am  

Does anyone actually know what King's deal is currently? Or are we working on the assumption that it was just big cos everyone says it is. Any ideas?

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:02 am  

It wouldn't surprise me if Saints were interested in Toby King for 2026. After all, if squad numbers are any indication, they appear to be going into this season with Hurrell and Percival still as their first-choice centres. Which is a tad surprising, given the various challenges faced by one or both of them in terms of age, fitness, proneness to injury, defensive frailty and midriff blubber.

Re: Recruitment, rumours and links : Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:22 am  

The Speculator wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if Saints were interested in Toby King for 2026. After all, if squad numbers are any indication, they appear to be going into this season with Hurrell and Percival still as their first-choice centres. Which is a tad surprising, given the various challenges faced by one or both of them in terms of age, fitness, proneness to injury, defensive frailty and midriff blubber.

If they do try to sign him, its not worth getting into a bidding war to keep him, just let him go.