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| matt_wire:
Plus maybe a bit of perspective is needed, we were missing at least 5/6 of our first team today, Dufty, Ashton, King, Wrench, Lindop, Fitzgibbon, Hayes, Yates...
Perspective?? It's a terrible Widnes side, but like a few have said we're in the hat for the next round, only to get absolutely battered if this carries on. I'm more disgusted with these performances than anything under Powell. | | |
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| Wires71:
wirecation:
You would think that something will come out in the wash soon as to why we have stunk the place out since round 1. actually go back further to our friendly defeat to Widnes.
Last week against Wakey and today i could see it coming. We’ve gone back to Powell era fragilities and teams are sensing it.
After Vegas and Wakey, how we’ve not been revved up to come out and blow away a championship team with fast rugby is beyond me. We looked absolutely clueless attacking their goal line.
God knows what we will produce against Saints next week. I fear another embarrassment and we will all be watching Wellens / Briers with smug faces.
The players are so temperamental and fragile. Something has clearly miffed them and they have switched off.
With Wire, usually when it gets like this it spirals downwards into a slump and a sacking of the coach, then the players start to improve (for a bit). Something in our culture or setup that spans coaches. Maybe look at those players and staff who have been here the longest.
This isn't a blip. It isn't even poor form. It's something else. We looked like we haven't played together.
I hope Burgess can turn it around.
Not sure Burgess can, think he might be the bloody problem. I think his reputation and aura carried his first season and if that gets lost (rumour says it has) then you’re just left with an inexperienced coach with no sway and a seemingly poor choice in player. | | | |
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| ratticusfinch:
Wires71:
wirecation:
You would think that something will come out in the wash soon as to why we have stunk the place out since round 1. actually go back further to our friendly defeat to Widnes.
Last week against Wakey and today i could see it coming. We’ve gone back to Powell era fragilities and teams are sensing it.
After Vegas and Wakey, how we’ve not been revved up to come out and blow away a championship team with fast rugby is beyond me. We looked absolutely clueless attacking their goal line.
God knows what we will produce against Saints next week. I fear another embarrassment and we will all be watching Wellens / Briers with smug faces.
The players are so temperamental and fragile. Something has clearly miffed them and they have switched off.
With Wire, usually when it gets like this it spirals downwards into a slump and a sacking of the coach, then the players start to improve (for a bit). Something in our culture or setup that spans coaches. Maybe look at those players and staff who have been here the longest.
This isn't a blip. It isn't even poor form. It's something else. We looked like we haven't played together.
I hope Burgess can turn it around.
Not sure Burgess can, think he might be the bloody problem. I think his reputation and aura carried his first season and if that gets lost (rumour says it has) then you’re just left with an inexperienced coach with no sway and a seemingly poor choice in player. Lot riding on this for Sam and his NRL coaching ambitions, and us. | | |
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| Wires71:
I'm in an alternative universe I think
"We’ve got to give credit to Widnes – they’re a great side" - Sam Burgess.
No idea what Burgess said and I'm not doubting your quotation but one thing that he got right was that credit was due to Widnes, they played really well aided and abetted by some strange refereeing calls and our own stupidity particularly at the start of both halves. The team selected should have been good enough to put Widnes to bed. However it was always a potential banana skin, Patton ran the show they spread the ball well and targeted our left hand side constantly. I'm not singling out any players there were some very obvious errors but the team does seem lacking that cohesion and spark so it's up to the whole group to get that mojo back and quickly. | | |
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| Uncle Rico:
Wires71:
I'm in an alternative universe I think
"We’ve got to give credit to Widnes – they’re a great side" - Sam Burgess.
No idea what Burgess said and I'm not doubting your quotation but one thing that he got right was that credit was due to Widnes, they played really well aided and abetted by some strange refereeing calls and our own stupidity particularly at the start of both halves.
The team selected should have been good enough to put Widnes to bed. However it was always a potential banana skin, Patton ran the show they spread the ball well and targeted our left hand side constantly.
I'm not singling out any players there were some very obvious errors but the team does seem lacking that cohesion and spark so it's up to the whole group to get that mojo back and quickly.
Quotation is in the Warrington Guardian. I agree Widnes played some nice rugby at times and moved the ball well but I would not describe them as a "great" team though. I think a more accurate description would be a well under par performance from a Superleage side against a championship side that were well organised, motivated and good with the ball. In my view we are unrecognisable from last season. | | | |
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Uncle Rico:
Wires71:
I'm in an alternative universe I think
"We’ve got to give credit to Widnes – they’re a great side" - Sam Burgess.
No idea what Burgess said and I'm not doubting your quotation but one thing that he got right was that credit was due to Widnes, they played really well aided and abetted by some strange refereeing calls and our own stupidity particularly at the start of both halves.
The team selected should have been good enough to put Widnes to bed. However it was always a potential banana skin, Patton ran the show they spread the ball well and targeted our left hand side constantly.
I'm not singling out any players there were some very obvious errors but the team does seem lacking that cohesion and spark so it's up to the whole group to get that mojo back and quickly.
Quotation is in the Warrington Guardian.
I agree Widnes played some nice rugby at times and moved the ball well but I would not describe them as a "great" team though.
I think a more accurate description would be a well under par performance from a Superleage side against a championship side that were well organised, motivated and good with the ball.
In my view we are unrecognisable from last season.
Can't disagree just hoping that the Staff and Players, that were correctly lauded last year, have it within themselves to sort whatever the issue is, out.
A previous correspondent said (and I'm paraphrasing), that we are currently worse off than anything under the Powell era. Opinion of course but I don't share that view at the moment. Yes we are struggling in attack, defense, cohesion but I'm hoping it's a confidence thing rather the total breakdown that we saw at the end of the last regime's tenure......we will have to wait and see.
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