Grade D Offence : Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:52 pm  

Ben is up tonight, i can see a maximum for this and we will lose him for 4-5 matches.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:42 pm  

Does Blyth have to face disciplinery action after slide tackling one of there try scorers

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:20 pm  

Dawson wrote: Does Blyth have to face disciplinery action after slide tackling one of there try scorers Seems not: http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php ON/38/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/39/09 David Ferriol Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/40/09 Adam Mogg Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/41/09 Jamal Fakir Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/42/09 Remi Casty Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/43/09 Gareth Carvell Warrington Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 If you follow the link I've given, then click on each ref no. you can see that Westwood and Fakir have been charged whilst Ferriol, Mogg and Casty have not and Carvell has been cautioned.

Dawson wrote: Does Blyth have to face disciplinery action after slide tackling one of there try scorers Seems not: http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php ON/38/09 Ben Westwood Warrington Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/39/09 David Ferriol Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/40/09 Adam Mogg Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/41/09 Jamal Fakir Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/42/09 Remi Casty Catalans Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 ON/43/09 Gareth Carvell Warrington Warrington v Catalans 21/02/09 If you follow the link I've given, then click on each ref no. you can see that Westwood and Fakir have been charged whilst Ferriol, Mogg and Casty have not and Carvell has been cautioned.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:28 pm  

Westwood will be a loss, but this will give a deserved opportunity to a youngster like Lee Mitchell, or McCarthy.

Our squad certainly doesn't lack depth, imagine what a decent coach could do with it.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:30 pm  

For those in the know, can someone explain the difference between the tackles of Westwood and Fakir. From what I saw, they both hit the opponent in the mush. Why is one graded higher than the other?

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:31 pm  

Have a read of this: http://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/On%2 ... 202009.doc Looks like Benny will cop the full 5 matches: there is no place in the game for players who jeopardise the safety of others by intentional, dangerous or malicious acts 2.3 AGGRAVATING FACTORS Previous Record Violence ... Injury caused ... 1Previous Record

Have a read of this: http://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/On%2 ... 202009.doc Looks like Benny will cop the full 5 matches: there is no place in the game for players who jeopardise the safety of others by intentional, dangerous or malicious acts 2.3 AGGRAVATING FACTORS Previous Record Violence ... Injury caused ... 1Previous Record

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:32 pm  

keithcun wrote:

For those in the know, can someone explain the difference between the tackles of Westwood and Fakir. From what I saw, they both hit the opponent in the mush. Why is one graded higher than the other?

Looking at the document, seems Fakir is accused of being reckless whilst Westwood of being intentional.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:39 pm  

Mmm.

So how do they know it's intentional?

Again, as I said before, there didn't seem anymore intent in the Westwood tackle than the Fakir one. If I remember correctly, Westwoods head went past the right shoulder of Carlaw and his arm followed, he wasn't even looking at Carlaw when he hit him.

Of course, I'm not stupid enough to think that if he isn't looking he can't intend to do it, it's just that I can't understand how they can come to the conclusion that Westwood intended to smash him and Fakir didn't.

I suppose that's why they have a hearing to put there case.

On a side point, it always annoys me when Stevo says he didn't pull the ball out deliberately because he wasn't looking at it, as if a rugby player doesn't know what a ball feels like when he has his hand all over it.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:47 pm  

keithcun wrote:

Mmm.

So how do they know it's intentional?

Again, as I said before, there didn't seem anymore intent in the Westwood tackle than the Fakir one. If I remember correctly, Westwoods head went past the right shoulder of Carlaw and his arm followed, he wasn't even looking at Carlaw when he hit him.

Of course, I'm not stupid enough to think that if he isn't looking he can't intend to do it, it's just that I can't understand how they can come to the conclusion that Westwood intended to smash him and Fakir didn't.

I suppose that's why they have a hearing to put there case.

On a side point, it always annoys me when Stevo says he didn't pull the ball out deliberately because he wasn't looking at it, as if a rugby player doesn't know what a ball feels like when he has his hand all over it.

The fact that Westwood followed him to the ground and whispered something to the effect of "Have that" in is ear would appear to suggest some intent!!

It certainly won't help in his defence!!

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:56 pm  

I'll go for 4 games, a fine and a warning on future conduct

He is not a persistant offender by any means.