FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Youth Development
SEB 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman13723
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 27 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
10th Aug 23 18:491st Apr 16 12:29LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington
Signature
WARRINGTON WOLVES SUPPORTERS TRUST ARE YOU A MEMBER?
//www.squadbuilder.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/Squadbuilder
https://twitter.com/WarrWolvesST

Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:31 pm  
More info and Warrington's views on the changes being brought in by the RFL:
Wolves_bosses_warn_of__lost_generation__of_players

Bastian__Partnership_with_Swinton_will_be_important

A huge backward step in my opinion. Appalling that clubs like Wigan and Leeds agreed to it (I understand Warrington and Saints were the only clubs to oppose it)
More info and Warrington's views on the changes being brought in by the RFL:
Wolves_bosses_warn_of__lost_generation__of_players

Bastian__Partnership_with_Swinton_will_be_important

A huge backward step in my opinion. Appalling that clubs like Wigan and Leeds agreed to it (I understand Warrington and Saints were the only clubs to oppose it)
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32343
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 17 200222 years173rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 12:085th Oct 24 10:07LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS

For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.

For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.

Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:05 pm  
SEB wrote:
More info and Warrington's views on the changes being brought in by the RFL:
Wolves_bosses_warn_of__lost_generation__of_players

Bastian__Partnership_with_Swinton_will_be_important

A huge backward step in my opinion. Appalling that clubs like Wigan and Leeds agreed to it (I understand Warrington and Saints were the only clubs to oppose it)


Where in that article goes it say that Wigan and Leeds agreed to it?
SEB wrote:
More info and Warrington's views on the changes being brought in by the RFL:
Wolves_bosses_warn_of__lost_generation__of_players

Bastian__Partnership_with_Swinton_will_be_important

A huge backward step in my opinion. Appalling that clubs like Wigan and Leeds agreed to it (I understand Warrington and Saints were the only clubs to oppose it)


Where in that article goes it say that Wigan and Leeds agreed to it?
SEB 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman13723
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 27 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
10th Aug 23 18:491st Apr 16 12:29LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington
Signature
WARRINGTON WOLVES SUPPORTERS TRUST ARE YOU A MEMBER?
//www.squadbuilder.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/Squadbuilder
https://twitter.com/WarrWolvesST

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:42 pm  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
Where in that article goes it say that Wigan and Leeds agreed to it?


It doesn't. Where in my post did I say that it did? I have been told that Warrington and Saints were the only ones to oppose it and I've read the same from other sources too.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3648
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 05 201015 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Aug 18 10:302nd Apr 18 10:39LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
M62 Corridor
Signature
Deus Dat Incrementum

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:34 pm  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
Where in that article goes it say that Wigan and Leeds agreed to it?

It has been widely publicised that us and Saints were the only clubs to oppose it, and the new system was effectively forced onto the Championship without any consultation.

As I said a few weeks back, terrible system.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32343
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 17 200222 years173rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 12:085th Oct 24 10:07LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS

For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.

For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.

Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:24 pm  
Ganson's Optician wrote:
It has been widely publicised that us and Saints were the only clubs to oppose it, and the new system was effectively forced onto the Championship without any consultation.

As I said a few weeks back, terrible system.


Can you point me to one of these "widely publicised articles" (not some random internet post)?

As one who is totally against these changes, and have stated so since they were first rumoured, I would like to see those said articles.
RankPostsTeam
International Star240
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 18 201212 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Feb 17 14:066th Dec 16 01:24LINK
Milestone Posts
200
250
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:44 pm  
I can't find anything official myself, I think I've only seen it on here. I did always think it was odd that at least Wigan and Leeds didn't oppose it, so it would make sense if they actually did. Warrington have been very vocal in not liking the decision - if Wigan have too that would indicate they didn't support it.
RankPostsTeam
Moderator39670
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 01 200223 years13th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 16:075th Oct 24 08:04LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Moderator

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:05 pm  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
Can you point me to one of these "widely publicised articles" (not some random internet post)?

As one who is totally against these changes, and have stated so since they were first rumoured, I would like to see those said articles.



It'll be provided in the same time frame as you backing up your claim that chris bridge should've been sent off earlier this year.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32343
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 17 200222 years173rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 12:085th Oct 24 10:07LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS

For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.

For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.

Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:13 pm  
Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
It'll be provided in the same time frame as you backing up your claim that chris bridge should've been sent off earlier this year.


Mine was a matter of opinion, this is being stated as fact.
RankPostsTeam
Moderator4682No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 19 201212 years133rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 15:0130th Sep 24 20:23LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Riding Slow Horses
Moderator

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:38 pm  
Jaywire wrote:
I can't find anything official myself, I think I've only seen it on here. I did always think it was odd that at least Wigan and Leeds didn't oppose it, so it would make sense if they actually did. Warrington have been very vocal in not liking the decision - if Wigan have too that would indicate they didn't support it.


I am sure I read that Hetherington stated that by the time a player was 19 / 20, it was already apparent whether or not he was SL material or not. I think this is the reason that the website article from Wolves talks about Tyke and Blythe as being examples of older players making the grade. So I am fairly certain that Leeds supported this move, but I don't know about Wigan. It is obvious that the lower clubs would have gone for it as they are struggling financially, you then only require one or two clubs like Leeds and the whole thing can get through a chairmans vote. Regardless, this is all water under the bridge. It was voted in and is happening, despite being roundly condemned by coaches and players alike. I can not remember seeing a single positive statement anywhere.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32343
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 17 200222 years173rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 12:085th Oct 24 10:07LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS

For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.

For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.

Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row

Re: Youth Development : Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:48 pm  
Winslade's Offload wrote:
I am sure I read that Hetherington stated that by the time a player was 19 / 20, it was already apparent whether or not he was SL material or not. I think this is the reason that the website article from Wolves talks about Tyke and Blythe as being examples of older players making the grade. So I am fairly certain that Leeds supported this move, but I don't know about Wigan. It is obvious that the lower clubs would have gone for it as they are struggling financially, you then only require one or two clubs like Leeds and the whole thing can get through a chairmans vote. Regardless, this is all water under the bridge. It was voted in and is happening, despite being roundly condemned by coaches and players alike. I can not remember seeing a single positive statement anywhere.


As you know I have been one of the most vociferous protesters over these changes. I managed to speak to IL at the clubs awards dinner a couple of weeks back and from his comments I don't believe he backed the new system. I don't believe he was happy with the existing academy system either.
Next

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Warrington Wolves


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Leigh it is
JIMMY MAGNET
88
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2418
13m
Film game
karetaker
4079
20m
Tonights match v HKR
fez1
90
26m
Recruitment rumours and links
Or thane
3179
28m
Questions for Ste Mills
Khlav Kalash
3
31m
TV Games - Not Hull
scarrie
2926
41m
Season tickets
bentleyman
9
54m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
christopher
10105
55m
TV games not Wire
Cherry_Warri
3569
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
33s
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
35s
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
45s
Rumours thread
PopTart
2451
48s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62588
48s
Tonights match v HKR
fez1
90
55s
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
14
1m
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
Mild Rover
2
1m
Questions for Ste Mills
Khlav Kalash
3
1m
Fev H Play Off
Bully_Boxer
21
1m
Season tickets
bentleyman
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
Khlav Kalash
3
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
fez1
90
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
bentleyman
9
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
87
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
241
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
801
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
843
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1238
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1462
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1205
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1614
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1316
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1547
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1723
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2064
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1679
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1707
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2038
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan38-0Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sat 12th Oct
SL
18:00
Hull KR-Wigan
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 5th Oct
CH 29 York27-10Widnes
SL 29 Wigan38-0Leigh
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 28 759 336 423 46
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 28 682 479 203 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Leigh it is
JIMMY MAGNET
88
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2418
13m
Film game
karetaker
4079
20m
Tonights match v HKR
fez1
90
26m
Recruitment rumours and links
Or thane
3179
28m
Questions for Ste Mills
Khlav Kalash
3
31m
TV Games - Not Hull
scarrie
2926
41m
Season tickets
bentleyman
9
54m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
christopher
10105
55m
TV games not Wire
Cherry_Warri
3569
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
33s
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
35s
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
45s
Rumours thread
PopTart
2451
48s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62588
48s
Tonights match v HKR
fez1
90
55s
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
14
1m
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
Mild Rover
2
1m
Questions for Ste Mills
Khlav Kalash
3
1m
Fev H Play Off
Bully_Boxer
21
1m
Season tickets
bentleyman
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
Khlav Kalash
3
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
fez1
90
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
bentleyman
9
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
87
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
241
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
801
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
843
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1238
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1462
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1205
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1614
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1316
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1547
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1723
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2064
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1679
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1707
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2038


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!