Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:56 pm  

Needs to get out of this club asap as his recruitment last few years has been nothing short of abysmal and Powell just as guilty for bringing his buddies over from Cas.
Moran and Middleton need grow some and sort this club out before the season is over as clubs even down at the bottom will be rubbing their hands to play us with what’s been dished up last few months.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:50 pm  

Based on what? I’m not doubting the outcome, but what logic is this based on?

He is the CEO of a successful and sustainable business, growing a major social media presence for the club and we have a full spectrum of teams including women’s, PDRL, reserves and a strong academy. We have a good stadium, consistently picked for big games . The business is a success.

For all we know, Fitzpatrick could have been given a list from the coach of players to sign and landed them all.

The issues are, in my opinion:

1. Letting the club to become such a disaster that 2022 was deemed necessary.
2. Failure to communicate openly with the fans throughout 2022.
3. Inability to develop a clear framework/style for the teams (all, including juniors) and recruit coaching staff accordingly.

Although, the board don’t seem to have the same priorities as me.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:47 pm  

Find it bizarre he’s still in role. I remember listening to a podcast with him and he got his chance at Warrington by offering to work for free, can’t knock the work ethic but does he have the skills?

Seems a very insecure individual, seems obsessed with trying to get one over on Wigan (the Matty Ashton signing story, Gelling, Charnley, Nicholson etc) rather than just going out his business professionally. Most of them great signings btw but just going public with weird quotes how they’d beaten Wigan to their signature.

The out of your league podcast he did after the decent start he was making out he was the messiah (with that awful earring). The arrogance was hard to listen to.

He said Josh McGuire was a great leader and would be massive for the culture.

All a bit cringe.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:13 pm  

There has been more than one thread on this guy over the years, I have never liked him and never will. Just my opinion and opinions vary.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:50 pm  

I'm ambivalent on Fitzpatrick.

He didn't miss any tackles or drop any passes on Sunday, and according to Powell he was responsible for the signings that did, not KF.

I agree leadership comes from the top, but KF isn't top of the tree and there are plenty above him who should be scrutinising every aspect of the club, including Karl's perfoemance.

Personally, I think we've got bigger issues right now and tbh I don't blame KF for the McGuire fiasco, or for several other problems affecting the performances on the field for theast two months.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:01 pm  

Its always difficult to critique Fitzpatrick, because I don't think anyone is 100% sure what his role actually is, especially with regards to the playing squad side of things.

Personally, my main gripe with him is what exactly are his qualifications for such a (supposedly) important role as the one he has at Warrington RLFC, seeing as he previously had zero connection with the club - I can always see how an ex Wire player could end up in a position like his, but someone who wasn't even a top quality player anywhere else?

For such a supposedly well run, professional club as ourselves, it baffles me how we ended up with a glorified work experience guy being handed so much responsibility.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:24 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Its always difficult to critique Fitzpatrick, because I don't think anyone is 100% sure what is role actually is, especially with regards to the playing squad side of things.

Personally, my main gripe with him is what exactly are his qualifications for such a (supposedly) important role as the one he has at Warrington RLFC, seeing as he previously had zero connection with the club - I can always see how an ex Wire player could end up in a position like his, but someone who wasn't even a top quality player anywhere else?

For such a supposedly well run, professional club as ourselves, it baffles me how we ended up with a glorified work experience guy being handed so much responsibility.

110% spot on.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:59 pm  

Come on, everyone knows it’s the dodgy ear ring and Wigan accent.

Can we get some wire boys in.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:36 am  

NSW wrote:

Find it bizarre he’s still in role. I remember listening to a podcast with him and he got his chance at Warrington by offering to work for free, can’t knock the work ethic but does he have the skills?

Seems a very insecure individual, seems obsessed with trying to get one over on Wigan (the Matty Ashton signing story, Gelling, Charnley, Nicholson etc) rather than just going out his business professionally. Most of them great signings btw but just going public with weird quotes how they’d beaten Wigan to their signature.

The out of your league podcast he did after the decent start he was making out he was the messiah (with that awful earring). The arrogance was hard to listen to.

He said Josh McGuire was a great leader and would be massive for the culture.

All a bit cringe.

Spot on. If the Ashton story was right - well done to him - but don't splash it all over the internet... keep your cards close to your chest. I don't see Radlinski doing a similar interview. And while Wigan's recruitment might not have been as sharp recently as it was in the past, I would say the smart money is on them getting it right before we do.

Re: Fitzpatrick : Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:52 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote: Its always difficult to critique Fitzpatrick, because I don't think anyone is 100% sure what his role actually is, especially with regards to the playing squad side of things. Personally, my main gripe with him is what exactly are his qualifications for such a (supposedly) important role as the one he has at Warrington RLFC, seeing as he previously had zero connection with the club - I can always see how an ex Wire player could end up in a position like his, but someone who wasn't even a top quality player anywhere else? For such a supposedly well run, professional club as ourselves, it baffles me how we ended up with a glorified work experience guy being handed so much responsibility. He started at the bottom of the club - an unpaid internship and obviously impressed the BoD as he progressed through the ranks. He also did an MBA along the way so is he qualified? He's as qualified as the guy who runs the UK company I work for, started at the bottom, worked his way up and got qualifications along the way and is now the top man in a $1b revenue company, I haven't particularly got a strong feeling either way on this, he's got some things wrong of course and if he went I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep, but he's qualified as the BoD have decided he's qualified and has shown enough promise through his time at the club to convince some guys who have very successful businesses that he's the right person for the job. What would you like his qualifications to look like to get the CEO role at a SL club? Is he better or worse qualified than Mike Rush or Kris Radlinski? They have better results as a club of course, but in terms of qualifications that got them the job? Roger Draper came in with a CV looking pretty good in terms of where he had worked in the past - that didn't work out too well either. I don't see why having a connection with the club would be a benefit in our case. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/chief-ex ... aid-67519/

Dita's Slot Meter wrote: Its always difficult to critique Fitzpatrick, because I don't think anyone is 100% sure what his role actually is, especially with regards to the playing squad side of things. Personally, my main gripe with him is what exactly are his qualifications for such a (supposedly) important role as the one he has at Warrington RLFC, seeing as he previously had zero connection with the club - I can always see how an ex Wire player could end up in a position like his, but someone who wasn't even a top quality player anywhere else? For such a supposedly well run, professional club as ourselves, it baffles me how we ended up with a glorified work experience guy being handed so much responsibility. He started at the bottom of the club - an unpaid internship and obviously impressed the BoD as he progressed through the ranks. He also did an MBA along the way so is he qualified? He's as qualified as the guy who runs the UK company I work for, started at the bottom, worked his way up and got qualifications along the way and is now the top man in a $1b revenue company, I haven't particularly got a strong feeling either way on this, he's got some things wrong of course and if he went I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep, but he's qualified as the BoD have decided he's qualified and has shown enough promise through his time at the club to convince some guys who have very successful businesses that he's the right person for the job. What would you like his qualifications to look like to get the CEO role at a SL club? Is he better or worse qualified than Mike Rush or Kris Radlinski? They have better results as a club of course, but in terms of qualifications that got them the job? Roger Draper came in with a CV looking pretty good in terms of where he had worked in the past - that didn't work out too well either. I don't see why having a connection with the club would be a benefit in our case. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/chief-ex ... aid-67519/