Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:44 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

Here is another player that needs the sack, absolute liability, poor positional play, poor defense and is fast declining in attack, teams week in week out are going to get success from attacking Penny's wing and should be dropped as soon as Gleeson is fit.

guess the same applies to all the team then

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:46 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

So who do we blame for Penny, the coach?

Nobody needs to be blamed for Penny, that's the point, the lad is doing nothing wrong. If you check your footage from last night, his positioning in the main was fine, it's his 'teammates' inside of him that are letting him down.

People are churning rubbish out, and were at the game last night, things like "That's three tries now down Pennys wing", No, no it isn't, It's three tries down the centres channel whilst Penny was in a decent position to make a tackle on his winger.

When he took Penny off, we were losing 16-14 and frankly, the only way I could see us scoring was Briers booming it downfield and him chasing it, as we couldn't get out of our forty with ball in hand.

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:47 pm  

TNT Burke wrote:

guess the same applies to all the team then

No the forward were awesome, Riley and Hicks did nothing wrong.

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:49 pm  

JWP wrote:

Nobody needs to be blamed for Penny, that's the point, the lad is doing nothing wrong. If you check your footage from last night, his positioning in the main was fine, it's his 'teammates' inside of him that are letting him down.

People are churning rubbish out, and were at the game last night, things like "That's three tries now down Pennys wing", No, no it isn't, It's three tries down the centres channel whilst Penny was in a decent position to make a tackle on his winger.

When he took Penny off, we were losing 16-14 and frankly, the only way I could see us scoring was Briers booming it downfield and him chasing it, as we couldn't get out of our forty with ball in hand.

The worrying thing JWP, is that it looks like Lowes is one of the Penny haters too!

Did he take Hicks or Johnson off when they got shown up by a 2nd rower and a kid? No. Did he take King off when he got stood up, no. Why on earth did he drag Penny off?

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:50 pm  

Dave T wrote:

The worrying thing JWP, is that it looks like Lowes is one of the Penny haters too!

Did he take Hicks or Johnson off when they got shown up by a 2nd rower and a kid? No. Did he take King off when he got stood up, no. Why on earth did he drag Penny off?

He did take Johnson off ace.

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:50 pm  

While i agree penny isn't a good defender he can't be blamed for any of last nights tries and doesn't deserve criticism for last night's performance.

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:53 pm  

JWP wrote:

People are churning rubbish out, and were at the game last night, things like "That's three tries now down Pennys wing", No, no it isn't, It's three tries down the centres channel whilst Penny was in a decent position to make a tackle on his winger.

How do you honestly come to this conclusion, on numerous occasions (3 or 4)
Penny was a good 10-15 yards from his wing man meaning he had to put his foot down to cover him and on 2 of those occasions they scored.

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:54 pm  

Dave T wrote:

The worrying thing JWP, is that it looks like Lowes is one of the Penny haters too!

Did he take Hicks or Johnson off when they got shown up by a 2nd rower and a kid? No. Did he take King off when he got stood up, no. Why on earth did he drag Penny off?

He took Johnson of for Bridge when he got pasted by Gilmour.

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:56 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

How do you honestly come to this conclusion, on numerous occasions (3 or 4)
Penny was a good 10-15 yards from his wing man meaning he had to put his foot down to cover him and on 2 of those occasions they scored.

If you can get hold of Saints highlights DVD's from the last two years, you will see Gidley doing this to all teams in SL. Saints work the ball well, and get the ball out in a two on two situation. Gidley will inevitably score.

I suppose the only way you can defend this is to hit Gidley as he is taking the ball, but the way Saints move it, that is nigh on impossible.

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:59 pm  

Dave T wrote:

If you can get hold of Saints highlights DVD's from the last two years, you will see Gidley doing this to all teams in SL. Saints work the ball well, and get the ball out in a two on two situation. Gidley will inevitably score.

I suppose the only way you can defend this is to hit Gidley as he is taking the ball, but the way Saints move it, that is nigh on impossible.

When all said and done Penny is not at the standard of a Super League player (yet) and should be replaced as soon as Gleeson is fit, until we do try's will always constantly be scored on his side, weather you blame him, King or Lowes he needs to be dropped.