Re: where do we go from here ?? : Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:25 am  

Big Ask wrote:

You're philosophy is dead right. Unfortunately its easier to scream, shout and criticise for some.

how about just sack some of em

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:34 am  

Les Boyd Is God wrote:

dont forget the last 6 games from last season

that was last season, why do people keep dragging it up. last season is over/dead and buried, lets judge on this season and with saying that to date we are crap, but will still be their next week come on u wire

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:37 am  

stubblesteve wrote:

that was last season, why do people keep dragging it up. last season is over/dead and buried, lets judge on this season and with saying that to date we are crap, but will still be their next week come on u wire

Why should we ignore last year? We have now lost the last 10 competitive games we have played, which is the worst in the history of the club. There is no benefit in burying our head in the sand.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:03 pm  

heres a record for u hicks 1st game not scored any points. now thats bad

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:11 pm  

Les Boyd Is God wrote:

could`nt make it up could you...so its our fault we concede more than 35 points a game...nowt to do with that rabble that go onto the field...i must av it wrong

no i agree mate the results are completely the fault of the coach and playing staff but how about this supposed attitude problem existing in the ranks is not helped by the attitude of the fans?

i just think that it can't help the mood within the squad when they are getting booed all the time i can quite easily imagine some of them thinking something along the lines of "well **** it then i'm just gonna turn up and get my paycheck and nothing else"

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:44 pm  

I've never heard such a load of poop in all my life. To suggest that a proffessional sportsmans ego is that fragile that it can be shattered by the fans reacting badly when they continually play with no passion. rubbish. Sooo it's the fans fault we're crap. Tell you what, let's all stay away from the games & see if they improve.

Did Leeds play that way against us because they got hammered by Manley - no they went 12-0 up in the first couple of minutes. Any team with a squad with half a backbone will bounce back.

This isn't kiddy amateur stuff where winning isn't a word that's allowed to be spoken. Wolves are a business same as any other & these people are trained proffessionals paid to get results.

There's much wrong with Warrington that's stopping experienced proffessionals playing to their potential. That's something that Smith can do. It'll take about another month IMO as in effect they are re-doing their pre-season to play they way he will want them to.

There's also the team spirit problem. All the players that Skents talks to come out with the party line "Confidence is high, we have let the coach down". Well if confidence is so high amongst the players then why the hell did you fork out for motivational coaches the week before the Leeds game Mr Gatcliffe ?

They need to stop the out of hours nonesence. Let's not sweep it under the carpet & pretend it doesn't exist. It's been talked about on Sky, and by the BBC so it should be fair conversation here. It's singularly the biggest problem we have. The impact on personal performance & drives a wedge between them & those who are dedicated athletes.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:53 pm  

Steve51 wrote:

There's also the team spirit problem

and booing the players every game helps this or hinders this?

if you are a current or former professional sportsman steve then i will honestly hold my hands up and accept what you say (not a dig btw) about it not affecting them but otherwise i stand by what i say

we constantly complain that the team does't have pride in the shirt and doesn't play for the club but for me the biggest representation of the "club" is the fans and if all the fans ever do is get on their back why would they bother doing anything but play for themselves and their paycheck?

they need to enjoy their rugby and if i was on a pitch being booed by the people supposedly supporting me i wouldn't enjoy it

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:01 pm  

tino wrote:

they need to enjoy their rugby and if i was on a pitch being booed by the people supposedly supporting me i wouldn't enjoy it

I think the answer lies here -

Points conceded

Catalans - 40
Wakefield - 48
Harlequins- 60

Compare that to

Saints - 26
Leeds - 20

There were few complaints after the latter games because at least there was some effort. To concede 148 points against Catalans, Wakefield and Quins is appalling, and it's no wonder people are booing.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:09 pm  

thats what im saying its a vicious circle... they play badly we boo, they get downhearted and play worse, we boo more

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:10 pm  

see how the team go for the rest of the season,then allow the changes that need to be made be made.
tony smith knows who needs to go and what type of player needs to come in,we are fortunate enough to have the financial backing to do this.
it has not been good enough and desperately needs to improve but for now we have to support the players even though we don't feel like it,you follow the team through thick and thin,but the club should be aware that fans are falling away because they have had enough of embarrassing defeats like yesterdays.
we have finally got a good coach and he needs to be given this season to sort this bunch out,i really hope he can.
come on wire.