Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:08 am  

Saddened! wrote:

On the non-fed trained issue though? Does that not apply to Wigan? You've got at least 7 that should be on that quota?

My understanding is that you are allowed 5 non-fed signed after 2008 are you not?

So I'd imagine Roberts, Finch, Hoffman, Lima and Cross make up the non-fed quota. Carmont, Richards and Tommy all signed before 2008.

Then of that 8, I'd guess maybe Carmont/Richards/Tommy don't count as "quota" for some reason or other, making it 5 non-fed and 5 quota?

I'll be glad when these pre-2008 contracts all expire so that the quota is 5 and 5 only (preferably less) for everyone.

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:11 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

My understanding is that you are allowed 5 non-fed signed after 2008 are you not?

So I'd imagine Roberts, Finch, Hoffman, Lima and Cross make up the non-fed quota. Carmont, Richards and Tommy all signed before 2008.

Then of that 8, I'd guess maybe Carmont/Richards/Tommy don't count as "quota" for some reason or other, making it 5 non-fed and 5 quota?

I'll be glad when these pre-2008 contracts all expire so that the quota is 5 and 5 only (preferably less) for everyone.

Carmont has a Samoan passport, so doesn't that make some stupid reason why he doesn't count on that one?

I agree, there's far too much ambiguity about it all. Set a limit of how many players a club can have that don't have a British passport and have done with it.

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:31 am  

Tends to suggest they think Hock can't cut it after his return from being a dirty drug user.

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:37 am  

mark_m wrote:

Tends to suggest they think Hock can't cut it after his return from being a dirty drug user.

Although it doesn't really, what with Hock being a 2nd rower and all. That's where he played his first game back, he only played prop last week due to us having no other props.

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:43 am  

I think it's good news for Wigan actually. Hardly imagine Maguire would sign him until the end of the season unless he saw plenty of value. People think just because he bizarrely fell down the pecking order at Leeds (who this season are total gash with a gash coach) that he's no good.

Trust me, he is. He may give penalties away but the best forwards do. Look at the likes of aggression in forwards like Gallen, Watmough etc. I'd have them in my squad in an absolute heartbeat. Our very own Benny Westwood is similar.

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:54 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I hope he plays in the CCQF anyway. He's that bad even Leeds don't want him.

He was signed pre McDermott and was told by McDermott that he didn't fit into his plans. Hardly the best way to motivate a player!

Let's see how he goes.
We've been running two props light all season (Fielden and O'Carroll) so bit of weight and experience could be handy. Let's see how he performs before "having a go eh!"

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:55 am  

jesus, thats a saints style injury crisis going on there.

i realise i'm repeating a convo i had with inside man last week or the week before, but wasn't there a load of chest beating and poop about how adding hoffman and lima to yourside was going to make you virtually invincible and your pack was going to kill and eat all others *



*possibly some creative licence there.

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:10 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

jesus, thats a saints style injury crisis going on there.

i realise i'm repeating a convo i had with inside man last week or the week before, but wasn't there a load of chest beating and poop about how adding hoffman and lima to yourside was going to make you virtually invincible and your pack was going to kill and eat all others *



*possibly some creative licence there.

They could also cope with any injuries and field two teams as well

Hope Mona's runs at him all day ala Feka re 2009

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:12 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

jesus, thats a saints style injury crisis going on there.

i realise i'm repeating a convo i had with inside man last week or the week before, but wasn't there a load of chest beating and poop about how adding hoffman and lima to yourside was going to make you virtually invincible and your pack was going to kill and eat all others *



*possibly some creative licence there.

We've also got Prescott out with a hamstring injury. That pack has only lost three games all season, so we're struggling along nicely ta..

Seriously, we don't know how long Fielden and O'Carroll (and I suppose Prescott) are out for. O'Carroll hopefully should get a game in the U20's on Saturday, so we are a bit light in the front row of we get any more injuries.

It appears to be a well thought out decision to sign Cross for the remaining twelve or so weeks of the season.

Re: Worriers getting excited : Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:13 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

jesus, thats a saints style injury crisis going on there.

i realise i'm repeating a convo i had with inside man last week or the week before, but wasn't there a load of chest beating and poop about how adding hoffman and lima to yourside was going to make you virtually invincible and your pack was going to kill and eat all others *



*possibly some creative licence there.

tbf, there's only been one side that have beaten us up front and that was yourselves. Packs like Huddersfield + Saints who have been dominant of us in the pack area have had the tables turned this year.

And Wire_85, we have coped with injuries all year (Fielden, our No. 1 prop hasn't played at all for example) and we are top of the league.

Cross isn't a case of us going looking for backup. He's available, we had the cap space and a quota spot, so it's a case of why not when it could clearly benefit us.