Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:16 am  

easyWire wrote:

Back in the 90s, Wigan went on a run winning the cup 8 years in a row and many league titles, in a division that was not a level playing field as they were the only true full-time squad and the only club backed by wealthy owners and big sponsors. I don't remember anyone questioning their trophy haul at the time.

COVID may have diminished the crowds and created a few problems, but it's something that all clubs are facing. Whatever is won this season will be just as valid as last. The only difference is fans won't be there to witness it.

Many people questioned Wigan's achievements at that time, and still do.

Their fans rightly never gave a hoot, but plenty of opposition fans dismissed their many trophy wins as hollow - I think this season will be similar. Whoever wins it will rightly laud their victory, but everybody else will shrug it off as being pretty hollow.

One thing is for sure, and I think it's actually what many Wire fans are referring to with regards to this subject, it won't stop opposition fans mocking our lack of title wins if we were to win it this year - Many will refer to it as the asterix title and claim it will be devalued... It'll probably lead to regular and countless threads on here for years to come, or at least until we win a title in a 'normal' season.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:15 am  

If we get to the GF and win with some fans being able to attend, I won't care what any other fans say.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:29 am  

wire2004 wrote:

NO.

This is not a diluted season. A dud season or however you want to put it.

You play what is on front of you. If we win the league. Ot will.be a legitimate league win. As it would be with the challenge cup.
If we win. We would of handled what has been put in front of us better than other teams in what would be the toughest season since the world war.

If saints win. They wont see it as a tainted win

If wigan win. They wont see it as tainted.. same with leeds hull fc. Salford. Wakefield laseford or catalan.

Agree with this but you know full well opposition fans would say we never really won it if we did.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:05 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Many people questioned Wigan's achievements at that time, and still do.

Their fans rightly never gave a hoot, but plenty of opposition fans dismissed their many trophy wins as hollow - I think this season will be similar. Whoever wins it will rightly laud their victory, but everybody else will shrug it off as being pretty hollow.

One thing is for sure, and I think it's actually what many Wire fans are referring to with regards to this subject, it won't stop opposition fans mocking our lack of title wins if we were to win it this year - Many will refer to it as the asterix title and claim it will be devalued... It'll probably lead to regular and countless threads on here for years to come, or at least until we win a title in a 'normal' season.

I agree over Pies/90s, they 'bought' those successes to the tune of going bust twice, but no Pie-eater will accept an iota of criticism of those 'achievements'.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:24 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

So what happens if the Grand Final is Wire v Catalans.
The week of the final, a number of Wire players test positive for Covid and so we go in to the game with a team half made up of Academy players. Catalans win.

Do we accept Catalans victory and celebrate it as a progressive move for the sport to see the first French winners of the competition?
Do we fire Price for failing to win another Grand Final?

No. I have a controversial view on the whole situation as it is. That and the black lives matter thing before each match. And I dont want to be banned for expressing my views which seems to be the norm nowadays.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:44 pm  

Perhaps winning this year for the Wire would mean our detractors could come up with a different chant for when normal service resumes.

How about....

Covid was your year , covid was your year
Unlike the last twenty
Covid was your year.

Although the lywics could be banned by the BBC.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:54 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Many people questioned Wigan's achievements at that time, and still do.

Their fans rightly never gave a hoot, but plenty of opposition fans dismissed their many trophy wins as hollow - I think this season will be similar. Whoever wins it will rightly laud their victory, but everybody else will shrug it off as being pretty hollow.

One thing is for sure, and I think it's actually what many Wire fans are referring to with regards to this subject, it won't stop opposition fans mocking our lack of title wins if we were to win it this year - Many will refer to it as the asterix title and claim it will be devalued... It'll probably lead to regular and countless threads on here for years to come, or at least until we win a title in a 'normal' season.

Easter eggs are very hollow, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying them.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:51 pm  

If we do win the Grand Final this year, will Price be accepted as the greatest Wire coach since Cec Mountford in the 1950s after delivering the Challenge Cup and Grand Final in consecutive seasons?

[Winslade's Offload]

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:36 pm  

Of course he will...........until 2021 when we win nothing and fans demand he is sacked immediately.

But what are peoples view on Price as a coach ? It can only be an impression because in reality we don't have first hand experience to really know. With that minor limitation duly noted, he strikes me as a rather inexperienced coach who is trying to introduce a bit more professionalism and structure to SL, where in general the need to entertain and fling the ball around is more important than 'hunting the error' and the two points.

Re: SL Trophy 2020 : Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:56 am  

I doubt they will engrave an asterisk on the trophy, so a win is a win!