Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:12 pm  

How it took so long to eject the pigtail guy in block 207 was ridiculous. Clearly trying to provoke and think hats off to Warrington fans for not rising to it. Had I been behind him I think I would have and I hadnt been drinking.
Been to last dozen challenge cup finals but never a Grand Final before this. It was like going back to the early 80's again

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:44 pm  

Wirefan wrote:

As an armchair football fan, does this sort of stuff happen at FA cup finals and such like, or does the segregation of fans help?

The fighting between City and United at the FA Cup semi-final and Community Sheild last year was quite frankly like going back to the dark ages. There was fighting at the service stations all the way there and all the way home, all the way down Wembley Way and around Wembley itself. Coaches smashed up, serious fights everywhere. In the ground there is YouTube footage of fabs trowing bangers and fireworks at each other. Really on a level ten shelves up from anything in rugby league. But the Manchester derby has never changed. I've been to one derby in my life where I didn't see any trouble and that was the one at the end of last season at the Etihad.

I didn't see one bit of trouble between City and Stoke for the FAC final last year.

But I'd rather not dilute what seems to be a growing problem in RL by comparing it to footy. This is not footy, this is a different sport and a sport that doesn't usually tolerate this kind of behaviour.

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:47 pm  

dids858 wrote:

Still not sure why Leeds fans were buying tickets in the wire end when they have been in the old scoreboard end for the last x amount of years.

True enough that, and exactly what I thought at the time. I could sort of understand if we were playing another club why a few of their fans would be in our end, but Leeds (and Saints for that matter) fans KNOW where they're very likely to be if they get to the final. Surely even if you intended going as a neutral and wanted tickets behind the sticks and bought them way before the finalists were known if you were a Leeds fan you would buy Scoreboard End and Saints fans would buy Stretford End.

If you waited for your team to get there before deciding to go and buying tickets, then again as a Leeds fan you would know which end to buy as it was the seventh time they've been there in nine years.

Irrespective of their behaviour, Leeds fans in our end simply made no sense.

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:52 pm  

danburge82 wrote:

The fighting between City and United at the FA Cup semi-final and Community Sheild last year was quite frankly like going back to the dark ages. There was fighting at the service stations all the way there and all the way home, all the way down Wembley Way and around Wembley itself. Coaches smashed up, serious fights everywhere. In the ground there is YouTube footage of fabs trowing bangers and fireworks at each other. Really on a level ten shelves up from anything in rugby league. But the Manchester derby has never changed. I've been to one derby in my life where I didn't see any trouble and that was the one at the end of last season at the Etihad.

No trouble at the Liverpool V Everton semi in April (and it isn't quite "the friendly derby" that it gets made out to be). The final was moodier but that's largely because Chelsea fans over the last few years have developed a bizarre obsession with wanting us to be their biggest rivals. I don't know why because we aren't on or off the pitch as far as anyone I know is concerned.

Anyway, as I said elsewhere - I've attended the League Cup Final, FA Cup Final, Challenge Cup Final and Grand Final in 2012, plus all semi finals (including home and away V City in the LC) and the only place I saw trouble INSIDE the ground was Saturday. The main reasons were Leeds fans and Widnes fans supporting Leeds in our end. Segregation is required.

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:30 pm  

Unbelievable amount of pondlife suppporting many different clubs. Depressing that so many associate themselves with RL. Won't being going to GF at Old Trafford again, whoever is playing.

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:10 pm  

I definately won't be going to OT again! There is just something about the place that makes me feel uneasy. It's almost claustophobic the seats are that tightly packed in, I don't know what it is....... My daughter was sat somewhere completely different to me and she felt the same! Maybe I still haven't got over the scene I witnessed a few years back when Saints and Wigan were playing, it was very unpleasant. Glad to say I didn't see any bother on Saturday and think it's very sad that there was so much trouble.

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:12 pm  

If everyone gets drunk then there will be no more problems. I was plastered and don't recall seeing any trouble

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:17 pm  

Apparently the Wire lad that had the living bejesus knocked out of him, was beaten up by set of Wigan fans not Leeds fans

Re: Disgraceful : Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:27 pm  

I've obviously been to the last 6 GFs before is one and I've see trouble at all bar the one in 06. Yet it still remains the only trouble I see at the rugby! For some reason, the grand final does seem to attract a bit of a football atmosphere (last year we were even sat between loads of football fans that spent the afternoon singing united songs and smoking weed). The mixed seating doesn't help either. I find myself wondering every year why so many oppo fans choose to come and sit in our end, it doesn't make sense, especially as someone mentioned above, we've been in the same stands every year! Nutters.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:26 am  

WarriFan wrote:

I definately won't be going to OT again! There is just something about the place that makes me feel uneasy. It's almost claustophobic the seats are that tightly packed in, I don't know what it is....... My daughter was sat somewhere completely different to me and she felt the same! Maybe I still haven't got over the scene I witnessed a few years back when Saints and Wigan were playing, it was very unpleasant. Glad to say I didn't see any bother on Saturday and think it's very sad that there was so much trouble.

...because the Wolfs won't be going back.

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