Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:10 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Well if Russell keeps his place another week, it's one he'll of a game for him to prove himself in.
In at the deep end vs Pies.

He won't prove himself though, wouldn't be surprised if they rip us apart down his wing again. I know people think there is more to come from him but I am definitely not in that camp. His inclusions have left me scratching my head since the start of last season.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:03 pm  

The real question should be, is there a better winger in the squad. If there is thenplay him... however the fact that he is being selected by a new head coach with a new assistant would suggest there isn't. Selecting a player knowing he is more limited than Russell would be pointless.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:09 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

The real question should be, is there a better winger in the squad. If there is thenplay him... however the fact that he is being selected by a new head coach with a new assistant would suggest there isn't. Selecting a player knowing he is more limited than Russell would be pointless.

I really doubt that steve Price knows the answer to that question and won't until he feels that he has given Russell a fair crack and then explored other options. Playing Matty Russell every week won't tell him about whether potential other options would be worse/ better and I really don't think it will see Matty Russell improve either.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:13 pm  

CW8 wrote:

I really doubt that steve Price knows the answer to that question and won't until he feels that he has given Russell a fair crack and then explored other options. Playing Matty Russell every week won't tell him about whether potential other options would be worse/ better and I really don't think it will see Matty Russell improve either.

But what he might see in training is that the alternatives have even more fundamental flaws and that Russell is as good as it gets in this squad.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:44 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

But what he might see in training is that the alternatives have even more fundamental flaws and that Russell is as good as it gets in this squad.

That's just speculation though, you can't say that is definitely the case or what Steve Price actually feels and besides so what if someone doesn't shine in training? In reality its game day that counts and he is responsible to change the team if he thinks the match day 17 needs to be/ can be improved. To be fair I doubt Steve Price is closed minded enough to write everyone but Russell off based on what he has seen in training for the short time he has had the squad together. He has said before he knows what he is getting from Mitch Brown, he almost certainly can't say the same about Russell and so is possibly giving him a fair chance.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:48 am  

I think we should consider that with hours of video analysis, training practices etc. that the coaches involved with Wire i.e. Price, Henderson, Briers, Smith & Agar will (would have been) be well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of each player. I think one or two on our forum show a complete lack of understanding of how coaching and selection works. In addition some are just very repetitive and exceptionally critical considering that it is a forum designed for fans of the game and in particular the Wire.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:41 am  

[quote="Smiffy27"]I think we should consider that with hours of video analysis, training practices etc. that the coaches involved with Wire i.e. Price, Henderson, Briers, Smith & Agar will (would have been) be well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of each player. I think one or two on our forum show a complete lack of understanding of how coaching and selection works. In addition some are just very repetitive and exceptionally critical considering that it is a forum designed for fans of the game and in particular the Wire.[/quote]

Blind faith in the coaching setup is dangerous. Also, your theory would mean that no coach ever fails, due to extensive research undertaken. So care to explain why we ended up in the middle 8's last year?

Is this not a conversation by fans about wire player(s)??

I think one or two on this forum show lack of understanding of how online forums work.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:22 am  

Of course I'm speculating, as I have no idea what goes on in training. I HOPE that our coaches know what they are doing and that if there is a viable alternative they would use it.
As for"blind faith" the idea that a player exists in our squad who is an improvement on Russell but the Coach refuses to play for unknown reasons...

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:27 am  

Feels like this board hasn't moved on from last season.

Re: Tonights Game v Widnes : Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:32 am  

CW8 wrote:

That's just speculation though, you can't say that is definitely the case or what Steve Price actually feels and besides so what if someone doesn't shine in training? In reality its game day that counts and he is responsible to change the team if he thinks the match day 17 needs to be/ can be improved. To be fair I doubt Steve Price is closed minded enough to write everyone but Russell off based on what he has seen in training for the short time he has had the squad together. He has said before he knows what he is getting from Mitch Brown, he almost certainly can't say the same about Russell and so is possibly giving him a fair chance.

Just to illustrate the speculation point.