Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:29 am  

I saw some of the trouble in the Stretford end, didn't see what started it but it made me glad I didn't take my family with me. I sat in the North West Corner with Leeds fans to the right of us and we had no trouble, no antagonising of each other when our team scored. At the end of the game when we were leaving congratulations were exchanged and best wishes given to the Rhinos fans which is how it should be in our great game.
This was my first GF in the SL era and the atmosphere was a tense one throughout the game totally different to the playoffs pre SL era which I attended on a regular basis.

As for moving the kickoff forward, will this really help I remember the trouble in the Warrington end at Wembley 2010 rival fans fighting once again.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:48 am  

Thelonius wrote:

Then move it to a better stadium, in better surroundings with more to do and far enough away to deter the casual drunken numpties from bothering - Millenium Stadium.

Incidentally I think this is a ridiculous idea. Nowhere near as many neutrals would go six weeks after Wembley if it was that far away, and neither club would take 20,000+ fans at one week notice all the way to Cardiff either.

The Millennium Stadium, and Cardiff in general, is well liked by everyone I know who has been there, but this game needs to be in "rugby league heartland" or the you'll struggle to get more than 30,000 there.

Old Trafford is a great ground that generates a great atmosphere anyway. It's the ideal venue.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:53 am  

Dropkick Murphy wrote:

Old Trafford is a great ground that generates a great atmosphere anyway. It's the ideal venue.

Old Trafford is a huge ground that generates an unpleasant (in my experience) atmosphere. I accept it's the only realistic venue, but a long long way from being ideal.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:19 am  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Apparently the Wire lad that had the living bejesus knocked out of him, was beaten up by set of Wigan fans not Leeds fans

I've heard it might have been amateur club related if it is the same incident. If so it makes the 'not RL fans argument' more ridiculous.

Incidentally, I didn't see any trouble on Saturday apart from the Leeds fans right behind the sticks antagonising those around them when Leeds scored.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:23 am  

latchfordbob wrote:

If so it makes the 'not RL fans argument' more ridiculous.

In fairness the "not true fans" argument is for holier than thou biffs in any sport. Just because they're not the same type of fan as you does not mean they're not a fan at all.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:13 pm  

Dropkick Murphy wrote:

As a non-Tory I don't agree with Yed's next post in this thread, but I fully agree with this (although I actually left two minutes before the end). I was devasted and had zero desire to see Leeds celebrations. I couldn't care less if some uber fans have a problem with this. It was most definitely not my second game of the season.

As for the good old "trouble is caused by people in no colours" argument. Can you explain to me why the fight (or at least the aftermath of one) I saw outside Wembley was between Wires head to toe in primrose and blue, including grown men in face paint?

Can you explain why I saw a grown man in a wolf costume with full Wire away kit over it boo throughout the minute applause last night?

Can you explain why I then saw that same person, along with his equally adult aged mate in a yellow and blue jester hat end up embroiled in bother with Leeds and Widnes fans - all in colours - at half time, resulting in said wolf arguing with his Warrington shirted girlfriend throughout the second half?

I don't like wearing colours (although I did have a Wire badge on my Harrington jacket last night - big game and all that!) but I don't behave like those fully kitted out clowns did.

You sir, are an absolute legend! That post is the first thing to cheer me up since the final defeat. Can we not have a 'poster of the year' debate now the season is over. DM gets my vote without question.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:42 pm  

Winny Ingram wrote:

...because the Wolfs won't be going back.

#Ageing

Our under 20's won their Grand Final and finished top of the league..
So don't you worry your little head about any of our players ageing...

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:58 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

You sir, are an absolute legend! That post is the first thing to cheer me up since the final defeat. Can we not have a 'poster of the year' debate now the season is over. DM gets my vote without question.

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:14 pm  

Thelonius wrote:

Old Trafford is a huge ground that generates an unpleasant (in my experience) atmosphere. I accept it's the only realistic venue, but a long long way from being ideal.

City of Manchester Stadium or would you say it's not big enough?

Re: Disgraceful : Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:32 pm  

47,000? Nowhere near big enough.