Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:31 pm  

..,,your mist probably right that getting arid of Price is the solution, but it’s a penalty for failure. 2 very different things.
We can give the interim coach our support while he tried to fix the mess. If he can’t I’ll not hold him responsible.

Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:01 pm  

Shabino wrote:

As an outside observer, I very much doubt getting rid of Price is the solution. He won a trophy last year ffs.
I know you've stayed there season really poorly, but the Saints performabce shows what they are capable of. I've heard Price is one of the hardest working coaches in SL. I think unfortunately you have a few players with pretty big ego's who seem more interested on telling people how many pairs of trainers they have.....
Reflects modern society really, so I admit I have some sympathy for the v players too.
An interview by Wilkin really got my goat last year what he was blaming g Saints and the RFL for not promoting his cafe, or making a big deal about the footwear y thing I've alluded to. I just thought What??

It's not the start of this season, go back to last seasons results and see how we performed since about July, taken out the cup games and its even worse, even before then we were dire but managed to win games. We went from challenging saints and we'll clear of 3rd to scraping 5th to get in the playoffs and then getting stuffed first round! He should have gone ages ago before this season even started. Right now we are getting what we deserve for not replacing him after the end of last season.

Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:19 pm  

Someone ought to accountable for not getting a prop so obviously and desperately needed to compete

Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:53 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Sir Alex Ferguson was able to get away with it because he had a track record of success from before the social media era, which made his position unarguable.

I think there is a bit of this in why Wane was so successful at Wigan.... he coached alot of those players from kids... he had been tough with them and they had been winners... so when it came to first team rugby it was a default setting for alot of those players.... thats how they had been brought up.

Put him in control of a team full of players he hasn't ever had influence on and i dont think he can be like he was at Wigan.

Grown men cant be bullied these days. (for alot of the reasons you went into).... its just how things are.

The Bosman ruling changed all of sport in that respect... players now have the power.... if they dont like a coach, then they just dont perform.

price is suffering from this as he simply cant motivate the players..... his tactics might be great, his play book might be amazing..... players dont want him though.

Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:35 pm  

Isn’t there a middle ground, high expectations without bullying?

The problem is, those same players that didn’t perform will get back into the team again next week. THAT’S when the players have the power.

If Price came on after the game and said ‘X didn’t play a great game tonight. I’m going to give him a fortnight at Widnes to get back to his best.’ The players might not like it but they’d start showing him their respect.

Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:41 pm  

It's too late for price unfortunately. We have won 5 of our last 18 superleague games (including the playoff defeat v cas). Even if you include the cup games 7 from 20 is still awful! That includes a run with 6 defeats on the run. I can't understand how anybody at the club finds that acceptable? How it wasn't deemed that a change was needed at the end of the season I will never know. What do the board actually view as failure?

Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:38 pm  

Robwire wrote:

If Price came on after the game and said ‘X didn’t play a great game tonight. I’m going to give him a fortnight at Widnes to get back to his best.’ The players might not like it but they’d start showing him their respect.

They would probably sulk and we'd soon hear grumblings about him 'losing the dressing room' if senior players with allies in the dressing room got that sort of humiliation.

Also if you leave big names out, who comes in?
Price was criticised for playing Keenan Brand, "throwing him to the lions".
If he sends a signal by shipping off some big names to Widnes for 2 weeks, some kids come out who are way out of their depth and we then get shallacked, and all the fans are calling for the big names to come back...who wins that encounter? It just demonstrates the leverage that the senior players have.

What Price could do, is act tough with the younger players, but not the senior players, which is what Millward was like at Saints.

Re: Price out : Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:53 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

They would probably sulk and we'd soon hear grumblings about him 'losing the dressing room' if senior players with allies in the dressing room got that sort of humiliation.

Also if you leave big names out, who comes in?
Price was criticised for playing Keenan Brand, "throwing him to the lions".
If he sends a signal by shipping off some big names to Widnes for 2 weeks, some kids come out who are way out of their depth and we then get shallacked, and all the fans are calling for the big names to come back...who wins that encounter? It just demonstrates the leverage that the senior players have.

What Price could do, is act tough with the younger players, but not the senior players, which is what Millward was like at Saints.

Yep, and it could well be that Price picked up this discord amongst whoever these senior players are, and made arrangements to ship them off for a month.

And it could well be that the board overruled Price in this and told him to coach the team.

And so it could be a standoff developed between Price and the Board resulting in a Mexican Standoff, and who’s going to blink first.

The board may be waiting for Price to resign, losing his payoff, and he’s waiting for the sack and his payoff.

Re: Price out : Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:40 am  

Someone on the facebook page as suggested protesting at the main entrance friday night and as just been shot down and lambasted from the happy clappers , get proper peed off with some of them specially a certain female supporter with colourful hair if your opinion differs from the sheep you're an outcast not a true fan etc etc

Re: Price out : Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:40 am  

Pi55ing and moaning aside - the club need to take action. It’s a business and needs strong leadership at the top to bring about change.