Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:47 pm  

I thought we missed Laithwaite tbh, he puts a lot of graft in.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:55 pm  

Good luck on this one. Taking one helluva chance, but if he knuckles down and cuts out all the cr*p that has prevented him reaching his enormous potential you might have struck gold with this one.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:05 pm  

TS is an expert at getting the best from a misguided talent.
I guess he just confused that with thinking he could also do wizardry with NRL crocks and Championship crocks.

Re: Joe westerman : Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:54 am  

He's certainly got the physical attributes to be a superb backrower. I hope he kicks on because its one of our weakest areas internationally.

Re: Joe westerman : Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:05 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

He's certainly got the physical attributes to be a superb backrower. I hope he kicks on because its one of our weakest areas internationally.

There seems to be a few waiting in the wings though. Looks like Whitehead will finally get a shot. Joe greenwood looks a good prospect as well as Bateman, Stevie Ward and our own Ben Currie, so I thinks it's a position with potential...?

Re: Joe westerman : Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:18 am  

Interesting article in the Guardian

Interesting article in the Guardian

Re: Joe westerman : Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:42 am  

[quote="Wires71"a woefully poor 2015 pack.[/quote]

And yet 3 of the woeful ones are in the current England squad......2 of the others ie Sims and Clark were I would suggest certainly better than woeful and the likes of Harrison Wilde King Philbin Dwyer Evans Laithwaite etc could never be accused of woefulness. Your case would be laughed out of court!!

Re: Joe westerman : Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:45 am  

Albino Wolf 2 wrote:

And yet 3 of the woeful ones are in the current England squad......2 of the others ie Sims and Clark were I would suggest certainly better than woeful and the likes of Harrison Wilde King Philbin Dwyer Evans Laithwaite etc could never be accused of woefulness. Your case would be laughed out of court!!

I stand by the statement that the pack as a whole was poor during 2015. Presumably Tony Smith agrees with that view and that is the reason why he replaced 50% of it for 2016.

There are other threads on the forum which discuss whether or not Wilde, King, Philbin, Dwyer, Evans, Laithwaite could achieve the levels of performance for an elite Super League side 17. I think the consensus was that not one of them is yet at that level.

Re: Joe westerman : Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:00 pm  

"Pack was woeful"....,

I can't give that statement an argument.
Possibly the worst pack since the blanked out dark times of Anderson and Plange.
There are individual forwards that singularly can carry credit during periods.