Re: Penny : Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:31 pm  

Lord of Lincolnshire wrote:

And that is purely your opinion.

Yes that's why i said arguably.

Although every player had a shocker against the French.
Do you think Riley would score the same amount of tries that Hicks does on the wing

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:40 pm  

The Speculator wrote:

I wonder if we could swap him for Brent Grose....

I'd love that and I also agree we should have kept him on contract


I also agree King should be dropped or sent home would be better but I don't think it'll happen

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:00 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

Regards Penny and Riley, if we released them both tomorrow, which one would attract saints, leeds and top union clubs and which one would probably go to salford or cas. By the way, i think we should play them both on opposite wings.

Neither?

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:10 pm  

The Speculator wrote:

Agreed. Penny and Riley both deserve to be in ahead of King at the moment.

Agreed again. Would also send out the right signal to the other 'senior' players that they need to earn their starting place.

Re: Penny : Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:59 pm  

JJJ wrote:

Would you play him on Sunday after bagging 4 tries. High on confidence bit of speed and enthusiasm.

I would give Riley a rest in reserves and move Hicks to full back. Riley had a shocker Friday (apart from his break for try) and his confidence will be low, and after all Lowes dropped Penny after 1 game v saints

I totally agree J. IF a player can't break into the first team after that performance then it send the signal out that the reserves & the youth development isn't worth a toss.

However, putting him into the Leeds game facing the backlash that they're going to inflict on us is the wrong game. I'd tell Penny that his efforts are worth a call up but after next week.

This week I'd swap Hicks & Riley over, Put Clarke in at 9 to shore up the system & bring Higham on for the last 15 each half for Vinnie & drop Clarke to 13.

Re: Penny : Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:20 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

Yes that's why i said arguably.

Although every player had a shocker against the French.
Do you think Riley would score the same amount of tries that Hicks does on the wing

Hicks has 12 tries in 13 wing games in 08/09, Riley has 13 tries in 18 in that period.

He was playing better and better on the wing last year, and whoever plays outside Gleeson generally scores tries.

Re: Penny : Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:35 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

Yes that's why i said arguably.

Although every player had a shocker against the French.
Do you think Riley would score the same amount of tries that Hicks does on the wing

Yeah i do,
any winger playin outside martin gleeson will score tries,
thats been proven for seasons now.

hicks makes very few if any mistakes,thats what makes him a much better and more reliable player than riley,

lets not forget riley is still on a massive learning curve,
as pointed out by phil clarke last week when he said,
you cant call yourself a super league regular till you have played at least 50 games plus..

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:38 pm  

Wire On The Telly wrote:

Majority on the wings.

He was a fullback for Woolston Rovers.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:46 pm  

If it was down to me I would bring Penny back but play him outside of anyone other than King. I would also stick with Riley at fullback for the time being as I believe that out of everyone currently at the club, he is most likely to be the first choice fullback in years to come. Monas needs to be moved to hooker sooner rather than later, and Bridge needs to partner Briers in the halves to give us a more dynamic partnership.

In my mind the best compromise to acheive all this would be Riley at fullback and play King outside Gleeson. If an Australian international (even an average one) can't switch wings then he may as well tear up his own contract and go back on the bins at home). If King can't find his confidence playing outside Gleeson then he will never find it. If Gleeson can make a donkey like Henry or a journeyman player like Hicks look good, then if it clicks what can he do with King?

At left centre I would play Hicks. This isn't an ideal solution, but he does have experience as an NRL centre and, as already said, there have to be some compromises somewhere. Outside Hicks I would play Penny.

This would free up Bridge to go into the halves, then Monas to Hooker, then Higham to impact hooker, where I believe he will be more effective than in his current 80 minute slot.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:58 pm  

Briers Is God wrote:

Drop King. Simple answer

Theres a game i would go to watc, King in the reserves!!!
Jimmy wouldn't play him if he dropped him though.