Re: Daryl Powell : Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:30 am  

It's the players that are the problem and not powell, if players are butting heads with him it shows their arrogance and overinflated egos. The Powell out chants are rediculous and shows how sad our fans are. If it isn't IMMEDIATELY perfect lets all spit our dummies out and call to fire the coach straight away.
Powell will get rid of players who won't change and bring in people who want to learn and give it full effort. And he'll have some good money to use next year.
This year is a clichèd transitional year and people need to realise that, change, culture and attitude take time to implement. It's not something that happens overnight.

Re: Daryl Powell : Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:32 am  

Shabino wrote:

I’ll tell you why I said it. Powell has done a great job at Cas, no denying that. But a very different set up. He has absolutely no experience in managing ego’s and unrealistic expectations. We were all thinking he’d be taking some decent players with him from Cas (Trueman, Watts, Evalds, McShane) but Holmes and Matautia…..
Surely this should be ringing some alarm bells at your end?

Literally a stupid post, "he has absolutely no experience managing egos".......what a moronic comment.

Re: Daryl Powell : Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:30 am  

Or thane wrote:

Literally a stupid post, "he has absolutely no experience managing egos".......what a moronic comment.

Daryl? Is that you Daryl??

Re: Daryl Powell : Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:39 pm  

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Re: Daryl Powell : Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:29 pm  

I think Powells comments are spot on, time for the players to stand up now and start producing. Powell needs to shaken it up though and get them out of their comfort zone, drop the worst offenders.

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:22 am  

Powell's comments give me confidence that he knows that we're rotten and is going to fix it.

There aren't any excuses right now, I'm glad he'd not looking for any.

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:20 am  

The problem he's got now is, he's alluding to players not playing for the team and how he wants to play, but if he doesn't make significant changes (significant can be dropping 1 name) he'll start to look at bit daft.

Injury update to run through who he can't play, then a team sheet to identify who he won't play, without saying it explicitly.

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:32 am  

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Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:39 am  

The tail has been wagging the dog at this club for a long time now. I read an article where Tony Smith explains Mickey Highams move to Leigh as the most bizarre transfer he has dealt with in May 2015. Just before the start of that season we accept Paul Woods transfer request and then we end up in the middle 8's.
I know woody and Higham were good mates but I do think that for a number of years players have felt comfortable in challenging the coaches decisions and if they dont like what is going on then not quite putting the required effort in.. I am sure there were players that were disappointed that Wood and Higham left but you are professional players.

I also read an article where Brian McDermott explained that Tony Smith had told him why he would never be a coach which led to Brian Mac changing his outlook so clear that TS was straight talking and honest to provide an opinion on where people were going wrong. Not everybody can handle that (you won't hear Barrie McDermott say a lot about TS on sky).
I suspect that some current players are not happy that we didn't retain Chris Hill or that Powell has brought a couple of Cas players and backroom staff with him and it might have started to upset the player power that has existed at Warrington since Morley and Monaghan left.
We had the same thing when Price put Ryan Atkins on the naughty step (although I do think that was a mistake).
I dont think established senior players are above criticism here. Yes they appear to give their all but you dont know what goes on behind closed doors.
I am happy that Powell is the right man for the job and time to break that cycle of player power. You dont see saints players sulking because they didn't keep Coote on for another year. You dont see them chuck their toys out of the pram because Wolfe has brought his mate Hurrell over to Saints. They get on with it because they know that they are not bigger than the club and if they did sulk they would be on their way out.
In just hope that Fitzpatrick, Middleton and Moran are able to provide the same message because if there is an inkling that they are not aligned with Powell then he is into loser from day one and the cycle will continue.

Re: Daryl Powell : Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:48 am  

Deus Dat Incrementum wrote:

The tail has been wagging the dog at this club for a long time now. I read an article where Tony Smith explains Mickey Highams move to Leigh as the most bizarre transfer he has dealt with in May 2015. Just before the start of that season we accept Paul Woods transfer request and then we end up in the middle 8's.
I know woody and Higham were good mates but I do think that for a number of years players have felt comfortable in challenging the coaches decisions and if they dont like what is going on then not quite putting the required effort in.. I am sure there were players that were disappointed that Wood and Higham left but you are professional players.

I also read an article where Brian McDermott explained that Tony Smith had told him why he would never be a coach which led to Brian Mac changing his outlook so clear that TS was straight talking and honest to provide an opinion on where people were going wrong. Not everybody can handle that (you won't hear Barrie McDermott say a lot about TS on sky).
I suspect that some current players are not happy that we didn't retain Chris Hill or that Powell has brought a couple of Cas players and backroom staff with him and it might have started to upset the player power that has existed at Warrington since Morley and Monaghan left.
We had the same thing when Price put Ryan Atkins on the naughty step (although I do think that was a mistake).
I dont think established senior players are above criticism here. Yes they appear to give their all but you dont know what goes on behind closed doors.
I am happy that Powell is the right man for the job and time to break that cycle of player power. You dont see saints players sulking because they didn't keep Coote on for another year. You dont see them chuck their toys out of the pram because Wolfe has brought his mate Hurrell over to Saints. They get on with it because they know that they are not bigger than the club and if they did sulk they would be on their way out.
In just hope that Fitzpatrick, Middleton and Moran are able to provide the same message because if there is an inkling that they are not aligned with Powell then he is into loser from day one and the cycle will continue.

I don’t know if there are issues such as you describe. I do know that the Saints players gave a darn good impression of trying to get Cunningham the sack.
I am coming round to the view that Price got as much out of this group as was possible.