Re: George Williams. : Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:15 am  

St Helens Wolf wrote:

I agree that Wigan have a few things going in their favour, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that he's theirs to lose.

Wigan had the right to speak to him first (which was the extent of the 'first call'). They didn't sign him at that stage so that advantage is now passed.

He wants to come back to the uk for family and it has been said that he prefers the North West. That's Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Salford and Leigh who all fit the bill.

He knows the setup at Wigan and some of the players / staff, that may or may not be an advantage. He moved to the NRL and made a success of things. He's returning of off field reasons.

Like all pro sportsmen he's a competitor, he'll want to win things. That's going to come down to Wigan's track record vs. our ambition as a club.

Coaches? I don't know how he feels about the different coaches.

He'll want to be playing in SL ahead of the World Cup. Whether that means at his 2022 club or a temporary arrangement who knows.

So that means it will come down to money. If two or more clubs can tick the required boxes then it's a bonus-malus situation. The club that is most attractive to him needs to offer the least money but a second or third choice club can still secure his signature if they offer enough money. I don't think that Wigan have such a lead that they can't be outbid. I'm sure that all the competing clubs will have put forward potential solutions as to how he can play this year, it's now about who wants him most / has the deepest pockets.

All good points.

Don't forget as well a deal for Williams to sign for us for next year was all but done before Canberra released him.

Re: George Williams. : Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:39 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I said on here a few weeks ago that we've made him a great offer (almost to good to turn down) and if he has turned that down in order to go back to Wigan for much much less money than what we've offered then fair play to him. Because of our lucrative offer I'm quietly hopeful that he'll be our player next year.

He could take a few years of big money from us and then sign for Wigan after that if he wants to win another Grand Final, like Gleeson.

Re: George Williams. : Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:26 pm  

He has agreed terms with the Wire

Re: George Williams. : Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:23 am  

PISol wrote:

He has agreed terms with the Wire

He’s no doubt agreed terms with all the clubs interested bar Wigan, who will still be trying to get him on the lowest salary they can. He’ll still probably end up there as everything is in their favour cap-wise and and circumstance-wise.

I doubt anything is even close to being sorted with regards to Warrington. Hopefully we have other irons in the fire.

Re: George Williams. : Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:34 am  

easyWire wrote:

He’s no doubt agreed terms with all the clubs interested bar Wigan, who will still be trying to get him on the lowest salary they can. He’ll still probably end up there as everything is in their favour cap-wise and and circumstance-wise.

I doubt anything is even close to being sorted with regards to Warrington. Hopefully we have other irons in the fire.

That isn’t how I understand “agreed terms”. You don’t do that with a number of parties and then decide. The process is discuss, negotiate, agree, sign.
Discuss and negotiate can be with any number of parties but would be major bad faith to agree then sign with someone else.
I’m only talking generalities here, I have no knowledge of th GW situation.

Re: George Williams. : Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:45 am  

Looking at Canberra result today would appear he played unless they have another Williams with 7 as a shirt number perhaps resolved their differences until end of season

Re: George Williams. : Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:58 am  

Sandwich Wire wrote:

Looking at Canberra result today would appear he played unless they have another Williams with 7 as a shirt number perhaps resolved their differences until end of season

That will be Sam Williams I expect, ex Catalan / Wakey half.

Re: George Williams. : Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:08 pm  

Yes you are right

Re: George Williams. : Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:16 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

That isn’t how I understand “agreed terms”. You don’t do that with a number of parties and then decide. The process is discuss, negotiate, agree, sign.
Discuss and negotiate can be with any number of parties but would be major bad faith to agree then sign with someone else.
I’m only talking generalities here, I have no knowledge of th GW situation.

In that case though, if he’d agreed terms in that way wouldn’t he also have signed straight away and the news would be out? Anything that goes on in the NRL is usually leaked immediately and turns up on the Aussie news/websites.

I hope it’s true though.

Re: George Williams. : Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:55 pm  

easyWire wrote:

In that case though, if he’d agreed terms in that way wouldn’t he also have signed straight away and the news would be out? Anything that goes on in the NRL is usually leaked immediately and turns up on the Aussie news/websites.

I hope it’s true though.

There are terms and then there is the fine print!