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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:28 pm  
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Where is it written that the shirt number cannot be reallocated BEFORE the season?



It's not. It's about getting outraged for no reason.
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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:33 pm  
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I believe Widnes have reallocated their numbers, so don't think there's anything to stop it being done.

Not only that, but they have offered to replace named/numbered shirts with new ones 'like for like'. For example shirts bought with Brown 6 on the back can be exchanged with a Mellor 6, Mellor 7 with a [whoever it is] 7 etc. A generous gesture, don't know if Warrington and doing the same with Sandow shirts.
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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:46 pm  
Yes Wire are paying for Sandow..
I would also guess Wire are paying for the Brown shirts too.(factored into the deal)
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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:12 pm  
I wonder if keeping Sandow registered at 7 will be for dramatic effect when it comes up in court.
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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:17 pm  
I'd sooner see it on Judge Rinder then when he is left homeless, watch Sandy on Jeremy Kyle with some colleagues!
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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:21 pm  
Captain Hook wrote:
I actually wonder what the salary cap position is? Do the RFL accept that there has been a fundamental breach of contract such that although we still hold Sandows registration we are under no obligation to pay him? Obviously the Salary Cap doesn't apply to us but I'm curious.


I'm pretty sure if you have a long term injury, like, out for the season you can de register a player so you can still pay him as per his contact but it won't count on the cap. I would like to think the same applies here that they can still hold his registration but it not count on the cap because of the circumstances. If this isn't the case the RFL are even more clueless than I first thought

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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:38 am  
I can't see how, as Sandow walked out on us, we would still be paying him. Therefore, how could there be any affect on salary cap?
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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:48 am  
Wrath wrote:
I can't see how, as Sandow walked out on us, we would still be paying him. Therefore, how could there be any affect on salary cap?


There's a couple of things in this.

Firstly, the salary cap value of a player is totally unrelated to the amount they actually get paid. It's a completely notional value, which uses a players contract to calculate the "worth" of a player. There's a couple of reasons to do this, both legally and logistically. The easiest example to see the difference between paying a player and cap value is in bonuses i.e. appearance bonuses. The cap assumes that a player whose base salary is over £20,000 will play 20 times in a year, and their total cap value will include 20x the appearance bonus whatever it may be (of the base salary is under 20k, it assumes they will play 5 times.) It doesn't matter if the player is injured in round 1 or plays every game that season, that's the cap value.

So, if we assume that the contract between Sandow and Warrington hasn't been terminated, then Sandow is still on Warringtons cap. However, there are clauses in the Salary Cap that allow clubs to appeal for a short term cap increase in cases of injury crisis, player misbehaviour, or anything else. The current situation should be cut and dry for Warrington to use this clause to effectively negate Sandows cap value.
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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:53 pm  
Wires71 wrote:
It's not. It's about getting outraged for no reason.


Wow. ......Why didn't you end that with a

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Just to sound a bit more pompous. ....

I had read we had registered the number 7 to sandow and that we are now unable to change that. This would make some sense otherwise Andrew Johns would have wore 7 when we de registered Appo. ( yes half way through a season but same difference? ??)

It appears its alright for you to have a pop at the rfl but I'd I do it it's outrage for no reason.

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Re: Kevin Brown OFFICIAL 9TH DEC : Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:07 pm  
All this charade with squad numbering just fuels my agenda of dropping the whole system.
It causes more issues than any small merchandising gains it makes...if any.
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