Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:32 am  

What frustrates me is how nonchalant Smith always seems. I'm not asking him to throw players under the bus, like Cunningham, but a bit of pride wouldn't go amiss.

Take Wane, for example, after they lost to Widnes during the middle 8s. He stormed off in anger, after being asked whether he felt threatened - the answer of course was yes. A few weeks later, his side went on to win the League. Has Smith ever felt slightly threatened? I very much doubt it.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:36 am  

I'm not sure it's pride with Cunningham...more misguided expectations...his side isn't good enough where ours is.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:37 am  

have to agree with RD's previous post. While the squad isnt as bad as some are making out (backline is very poor though), these players can play MUCH better.

In every league game this season, its looked like a squad of players (bar 1 or 2) not really interested.

If they can get themselves up for another big game on the TV and beat wigan, you have to wonder about the mindset of the players.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:22 am  

If the players mind set has gone then we are in for a very poor season and whether we like it or not TS and RA will be walking a tight rope. It is their job to motivate the squad. By the looks of the last 4 games they have only managed this once and that was for a game that didn't count for anything in the "bread and butter" world.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:30 pm  

Ganson's Optician wrote:

What frustrates me is how nonchalant Smith always seems. I'm not asking him to throw players under the bus, like Cunningham, but a bit of pride wouldn't go amiss.

Take Wane, for example, after they lost to Widnes during the middle 8s. He stormed off in anger, after being asked whether he felt threatened - the answer of course was yes. A few weeks later, his side went on to win the League. Has Smith ever felt slightly threatened? I very much doubt it.

How Smith acts in front of a camera is completely different to how he is behind closed doors.

Smith had the lads back in training Sunday morning. He certainly isn't taking this form well.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:25 pm  

moving on... wrote:

How Smith acts in front of a camera is completely different to how he is behind closed doors.

Smith had the lads back in training Sunday morning. He certainly isn't taking this form well.

That's good to hear moving on and thanks to Morleys deckchair for watching my back.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:18 pm  

Ron wrote:

Except Gidley routinely chooses the wrong option, which was a criticism of him throughout his NRL career and hasn't changed in SL... so no it is nothing to do with luck when he did the same thing again in the grand final.

Warrington failing to win a grand final hasn't been because of bad luck, it has been down to under performing/poor player selection... which is down to the coach.

But as people have already said, a lot of fans are more than happy with finishing high up in the league and making the odd final appearence.

Completely disagree. In 2013 you had key injuries that affected the team's chance of winning. Nothing to do with Smith, just bad luck. Would Wigan have won if Monaghan and Ratchford had stayed on the field and you hadn't the need to completely reorganise the backs?

I'm afraid that the difference between winning and losing at the top level is often very fine margins, and luck plays a big part.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:29 pm  

moving on... wrote:

How Smith acts in front of a camera is completely different to how he is behind closed doors.

Smith had the lads back in training Sunday morning. He certainly isn't taking this form well.

You can't see him giving the team the hair dryer treatment though can you?Rather have Wane's passion any day than Smith's not that bothered attitude.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:47 pm  

runningman29 wrote:

You can't see him giving the team the hair dryer treatment though can you?Rather have Wane's passion any day than Smith's not that bothered attitude.

I'm sorry runningman, but, I disagree.

TS's couldn't care less smirkiness can grate but IF he is doing his stuff behind the scenes, getting the players in on a Sunday and not having this laissez faire attitude that he portrays publically, then that's better than ranting and raving IMO.

Re: 2017 and Tony Smith : Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:48 pm  

Trent Robinson, the best young coach in the world, would obviously be the dream replacement if Smith were to go but again there's zero chance of luring him similarly with Bennett, Bellamy and Hasler.